YBIOTL Episode 17 Publish
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Shubh: [00:00:00] Welcome to episode. Nah, can I say welcome to episode 17 when I'm just introing a live show? We did,
Philippe: I don't know. I guess so, right? Like you're Yeah, it's still gonna be,
Shubh: we're gonna keep this intro airtight.
Philippe: All
Shubh: right. We're recording it actually before another guest comes on for episode 19.
Philippe: Yeah. We
Shubh: recorded a live show, a April Hickey from Toast, Ted Hacker from ZayZoon.
Philippe Burns from Tech Thursday Shubh Sidhu from
Philippe: soon to be, not only
Shubh: a podcast, soon to be not only a podcaster.
Philippe: Very exciting.
Shubh: It was, uh, amazing. Uh, thanks again to Tech Thursday for putting it on. Weather was awful. Night before long weekend,
Philippe: but the people still showed up.
Shubh: Had like, what, 50 or 60 people show up?
Yeah, it was amazing. Which is crazy. Uh, lots of laughs. Uh, uh, y you, um, d destroyed the hopes and dreams of a, a Spective startup founder.
Philippe: Yeah, that's good.
Shubh: You gotta watch the video. And there's video for this one. So we're gonna put video. Yeah. And audio. This part doesn't have video, so that you know
Philippe: so [00:01:00]
Shubh: well.
Philippe: Yeah. So yeah, if you're watching this on YouTube right now, it's blank
Shubh: screen, but it'll be it Tech Thursday. Uh, with like a, your businesses online logo probably.
Philippe: Yeah. We could do like AI people dancing or something.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah. Well, Chaz, you could take that away. You could create something cool. This movie.
Maybe it'll
Shubh: just be Chaz Dancing.
Philippe: What was your biggest takeaway from the event?
Shubh: We should do it again.
Philippe: Yeah. Every week, every Thursday.
Shubh: You did text me right after and said, Hey every week. And I kind of was like, I would do it.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: I mean, you got a real company though. Like it would probably submarine all your Tech Thursday attendance if it was only that every week.
Philippe: That's true. But we should definitely break back. It was so much fun.
Shubh: We should just do it before and after every one of your serious panels.
Philippe: Yeah, before
Shubh: and after like, like with 300 people to show up to learn about, uh, uh, data inference layers and data centers. At the end we could be like, anyone wanna pitch an idea about, uh, popcorn that's also a basketball?
Philippe: Um, yeah. My biggest segue was like, how much people care about my personal life [00:02:00] from doing this podcast. A lot of people asking me how my dating life is going.
Shubh: It's good. Good for your ego.
Philippe: Is it good for, you know, it was bad for you. People were like, people were like, oh, I was dating. You mentioned it so much.
You must be so lonely. Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, you know, it's a part of your brand now.
Philippe: Part of my brand now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Shubh: We'll have to cancel when you get married. We'll do one live show a week before and that'll be it. We'll stop the podcast the day Get married.
Philippe: Yeah. Nobody will care. My wedding is just a live show.
Shubh: It'll be like, you know, all the sitcoms when there's that will day, Walt Day Energy, and then as soon as they get together, viewership drops off.
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: We may as well just fold it up.
Philippe: We as well fold it up. Yeah, yeah. That's right. My wi my, my, my w my Wife is the last Your business is on the Line podcast. Oh yeah.
Shubh: Oh gosh. Actually, that's an incredible idea. And she pitches Phil, the idea she pitches is Phil can No longer podcast.
Philippe: Yeah, that's right. It's just her vows. Or vows. An episode of this podcast [00:03:00]
Shubh: to have it too bold in silence. At least from a podcasting perspective,
Philippe: we get our, we get, um, the, our priest from Jesus Plus.
Shubh: Yeah. And then when someone says, uh, does anyone object? Chaz jumps up and says, what about the podcast?
Philippe: Or he
Shubh: jumps up and says, I guess I'm the new co-host out.
Philippe: Yeah. Would you fight for me, Chaz?
Shubh: Alright. We will be right back. Well, no, we won't be right back. The recording that we recorded will be right back.
Enjoy the first ever live episode of your business is online.
Philippe: Boom. Thank you guys so much for coming. Maybe by quick show of hands, uh, who here has listened to your businesses on the line before? Okay, awesome. Who here? It's their first time listening to your businesses on the line. Okay. Amazing. That's, I'm so glad to hear.
Um, I won't preempt it at all. Maybe I'll leave that for Chaz, but it's a business comedy [00:04:00] podcast, so if any of you guys are used to coming to Tech Thursday where we talk about very serious things and we, we, we don't laugh at all. That's not what this is. This is, uh, a comedy. Um, so I mean, if, hopefully people laugh, I guess you might not.
Um, but hopefully you do. Uh, um, and, uh, but I did wanna talk a bit about Tech Thursday. Um, typically Tech Thursday is not a live podcast, but, uh, we're thrilled to have partnered with Chubb, uh, on a live recording of your business on the line. Chubb launched his podcast, um, in, when November. December, December, and every week he has folks come on and pitch silly business ideas.
That's all the preempting I'll do, uh uh, but what's really cool is that at some point this year, they reached number three on the entrepreneurship category, uh, in Canada, uh, for podcasts or give it up for shot. So cool. He announced it at [00:05:00] the, uh, tech Thursday holiday party that he was gonna do this and he did it.
There was a lot of paid ads that went into that, though, I'll be honest. But that's still incredible. We need money. That's right. Um, but, uh, uh, uh, tech Thursday, um, is not always live podcast, although it is in two weeks. In two weeks, we are hosting, uh, the Founder's Mindset, which is Leah s podcast, uh, and she's also gonna be recording a live podcast here in this space.
On, uh, April 23rd, we're hosting a panel called The Future of Government Funding, uh, which should be a fun conversation. And then, um, April 30th, we have, um, how energy and heavy industry can lead AI adoption in Canada. So Carrie Lee from Blue Marvel. And, uh, the folks at Geologic AI are both gonna be on that panel.
Uh, so it should be a really fun, uh, uh, conversation. So a couple other times you can come, uh, if you don't like laughing, uh, come to those events, they might still be fun. Uh, uh, there are a couple of founders, [00:06:00] uh, sponsors I wanna shout out who make this all possible. Our sweet friends at Skip the Dishes, Neo Financial, uh, boast, uh, BLG.
And the ones who aren't up here are, uh, Crestview and Motive. Angelica, am I missing anyone? I don't think so. Okay. I think that's everyone, but, okay. Uh, that's it from me. Um, I'm gonna turn it over to who's gonna introduce, or am I just gonna call you up and all the speakers and we just get into it? Uh, yeah, I need a minute.
You need a minute? All right. Come up. I
Shubh: gotta thank you. Right?
Philippe: No, you don't have to. Thank you. No, I
Joe: do. Alright. I'll take. Yes. Okay.
Shubh: Um, hello everybody.
Philippe: Do you want me to stay up?
Shubh: Uh, yeah. I mean, this is, uh, Phil was very kind. He said this was, uh, my podcast and we started it. But, uh, without the support of Tech Thursday and, uh, his, uh, hilariousness on the pod, um, it would not be any fun and we wouldn't be doing it.
So this is pretty cool. Um, I just wanna say thanks everybody for coming out. It's a [00:07:00] holiday tomorrow, and, uh, it's snowy. This grossly exceeds the number of people we expected on this, uh, uh, at this event. Um, so like Phil said, people come on the podcast, many of them are entrepreneurs, founders, venture capitalists, people we know, uh, and they pitch an idea.
Now, for those of you who haven't heard the podcast, I don't know why you're here. Uh, um, but, uh, I just wanna set the expectation here. These aren't necessarily always, um. Like phenomenal business ideas like, uh, our friend Joe, who he might have welcomed you in, pitch an idea called the precipitation confirmation validation device.
It's snowing out and he can confirm it's snowing outside. Um, uh, just one thing too, um, you're not allowed to leave without following the podcast, is that right?
Philippe: No, you are. Just so it's clear you are allowed to leave,
Shubh: uh, that shove
Philippe: [00:08:00] might stop you.
Shubh: I thought that was a condition to be doing this is that you, you have to go to y btl.ca and follow the podcast.
Okay. Uh, that's it for intro.
Philippe: If you guys do that, then we don't have to pay for paid ads anymore. We can keep charting.
Shubh: No, sorry. That's incorrect. Uh oh really? No. If they, yeah, if you follow it, we, uh, allows us to generate more revenue and then we can, we can buy more ads. We can pay
Philippe: more. Everyone does it.
By the
Shubh: way, what is the problem with startups in this country? You're not willing to spend money to grow. I don't know. That's not, that was like a funny bit, but it got serious. Uh, okay. Uh, I want to, uh, invite up our two guests today. April Hickey from Toast and Tate Hacker from Za Zune making his return to the podcast.
Please welcome the
Philippe: Come on up.
Hello. Hi. Surprise, surprise. Tate's wearing a hat.
Shubh: This is the first [00:09:00] first time in tech Thursday history. There's been four microphones too.
Philippe: That's right. Yeah. Usually, usually no one's allowed to talk over each other, but we figured it would be, it would be awesome if we That's a good
April: rule.
Philippe: That's right. I'm
April: gonna talk over you
Shubh: this
Tate: whole time.
Saw all that sponsorship dollars. You guys sold out. Look at all the banners here. Hey, you wearing a, you wearing a Herschel Tok? Why isn't
Shubh: Herschel sponsors?
April: You don't have ZayZoon stuff on. You're always wearing ZayZoon swag.
Tate: I had to switch it up.
Shubh: Okay. Uh, everybody, welcome to, uh, I guess this is technically an episode number, episode 17.
We did 17 yesterday.
Philippe: 16 yesterday.
Shubh: 16. Yesterday, episode 17 of your business businesses. On the line with, uh, co-host Philippe Burns special guest, Tate Hacker from Zune, April Hickey from Toast Tate. April, can you just, uh, 30 seconds just give the, for those of you who, those of you who might not know who these fine folks are and how successful they are.
And, uh, which again, you might be questioning how successful they are 'cause they've agreed to [00:10:00] do this. So, so yes, please tell everybody that you actually are successful.
April: Ladies first. Go ahead.
Shubh: You got it.
April: Uh, hi everyone. I'm April Hickey. I'm the founder and CEO at Toast. We are recruitment platform aimed at increasing gender diversity in tech.
And actually just today we announced that we have a nonprofit arm as well. Um, and alongside those nonprofit arms, we have partnerships with Google Lovable and Harvard University. So, cool day for us today. Give
Shubh: it up.
April: Yeah.
Shubh: Is this your, thank
April: you.
Shubh: Is this your first media since making that announcement?
April: Uh, yep.
Today? Yes. Wow. Tech
Tate: Thursday exclusive.
April: Yes.
Shubh: It's, wow. I mean, your business is on the line exclusively. Yeah. I wasn't aware that gender diversity in tech was a problem.
April: I know. Shocking.
Shubh: All, all the ladies are laughing. You get it? You guys are. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
April: I think we need more men in tech. That's what we need,
Shubh: right?
April: Yeah. Lots more men.
Philippe: That's right. And speaking of men in tech,[00:11:00]
Shubh: that's what we call tossing a grenade.
Tate: Hey everyone. I'm a dumb white male executive in tech. Um,
April: mediocre. We say mediocre white,
Tate: medi male. Mediocre. Oh, mediocre. Um, yeah. I'm, I'm one of the co-founders at ZayZoon. Uh, for those that don't know, we are a, uh, company here in town that does earned wage access. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck.
Uh, when those people find themselves in a cash flow crunch, they use. Payday loans, overdraft fees, maybe they just go late on a bill payment. Kind of sucks. Uh, so we give them the ability to get paid whenever they want. Like a little ATM in their pocket.
Philippe: Sweet.
Shubh: Sounds like a really great company, ZayZoon.
Tate: It is a great company.
What?
Shubh: No, no, that was serious.
Philippe: Oh,
Shubh: because
Philippe: you used to work there famously.
Shubh: Thank you.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Famously, apparently not because that joke did not land.
Philippe: [00:12:00] That's right. I heard it was a great company Until, about, until, until their head
Shubh: might have, like August last year.
Philippe: Yeah. I heard their head of growth left to start a podcast.
Shubh: Oh, that is sad. And also true. Uh, okay.
Tate: Wait, wait. We, we need to give a shout out. We need to give a shout out to Jenny in the new network because she was
Philippe: sponsor ad read, mid read. Right, right. It's our
Tate: second
Shubh: straight episode. Jenny with a guest doing an ad read for
Philippe: you. For, for you. It happened yesterday when we were recording.
We didn't even prompt it.
Shubh: Yeah. Sorry Tate, go ahead.
Philippe: Yeah,
Tate: well, so, so Jenny in the new network was, I think the first sponsor. You're god
Shubh: damn right, they were, yeah.
Tate: Amazing. Um, also a sponsor at host 8 3 1. Wow.
Shubh: Wait, hold on. Is he allowed to pitch 8 3 1 1.
April: I'm also a member so I can pitch 8 3 1 if you want.
Tate: Also, I'm a member speaking as a Zoom. Uh, the new network does recruitment. Um, they filled [00:13:00] 73 77. 70
Shubh: 77. How many people work at ZayZoon Tate,
Tate: about 200.
Shubh: That's over a third
Tate: many. That's 77 people she filled at zz, uh, in last year, the year before. In total. Since 2024. In, in six. In the past. In the past six years.
Okay. There you go.
Philippe: But, uh, uh, Toso recruits for you guys as well.
Tate: They do as well. That's correct.
Philippe: There you go.
Shubh: We have a new
Philippe: hire starting next week
Tate: and they just filled one for us, uh, a couple months ago.
April: Yep, yep.
Shubh: So if you're, uh, recruiting for your startup or scale up, talk to Jenny first 'cause she paid us money.
And then talk to and then talk to
April: and then come here. Yeah,
Shubh: yeah,
Philippe: yeah, that's right. Um, uh, this is awesome, but maybe, and, uh, shove, this is probably a year ago, but I was gonna queue up, um, Tate to talk about how your life has changed. Tate was on her. Oh yeah. Tate was on her
Shubh: show episode, episode six. Tate was on the podcast.
Um, talked about a harrowing journey.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Through space and [00:14:00] time.
Philippe: The reason why he's wearing a hat is, is be between us. Yeah. Me and you guys,
Shubh: and the
Philippe: recording team. Is, is balding.
Shubh: Okay. Eddie, I don't think he's balding.
Philippe: Are you balding? You don't. You don't go to, you don't go to Turkey if you're not balding.
Right. It's, it, it's true there. There's other reasons to go to Turkey. I, so I mean, like, of course you could go to Turkey. I, Sambo is beautiful, but you don't go, you don't go to the, you don't go to the hair loss clinics if you're not balding. You know, you don't go, you're not in Istanbul going, but wait,
April: why is this life advice?
'cause I got the transcript from the call that I missed when we had this pre-call and it sent in it Yeah, that
Shubh: transcript came up weird.
April: Yeah, it was back because I sent it to Tate after I texted him. 'cause it said Tate is going to give an update on his life changes and then give it life advice to April.
And I was like, I don't want life advice from Tate. No, no. I think
Shubh: Google
Tate: missed a couple
Shubh: copies. I, this might shock you, but AI might have not done that. Right? I I, I got a
Tate: really angry text [00:15:00] from April being like, what are you gonna mansplain me?
Shubh: Yeah. No. What are,
April: what are, I'm like, I don't, I have life advice for take.
I'm not taking it from take. Yeah. Honestly.
Philippe: Okay. Yeah. Well,
Shubh: okay.
Philippe: Well maybe you could dissect this story. So Tate on this podcast tells all, it's a tell all podcast where he talks about going to Turkey, going to a hair loss clinic, getting a little freaked out and uh, literally running away.
April: Okay. I need to hear this.
I've been trying, I've been trying to get my husband to go to Turkey for this exact reason. Sorry, Joe. Yeah.
Shubh: Hey, you know what, uh, if we're any hair loss clinics that anyone's connected to, we would love a sponsorship
Philippe: in Calgary. In Calgary. So, so yeah. How has your life changed since the Tell all?
Tate: Oh, yeah.
Dramatically changed. Um, e everyone comes up to me now because I was most listened to on, on the show, on, on this, on this third.
Philippe: Is that true?
Shubh: Until we started paying from ads? Oh, fuck. Organically, definitely. [00:16:00]
Tate: Um, I don't have an answer for you. Really. Life hasn't changed a whole lot. Okay. That, that tracks to
April: be
honest.
April: Okay. But do you have life advice for any of us?
Shubh: No. He was supposed to, no. Supposed to give a, he was gonna give you advice. So the transcript. Are we gonna
Philippe: do a pitch today or
Shubh: what's, what's happening here? You know, let's just wrap, we're gonna, uh, wrap. Sign on that second. Wait.
Philippe: You said you had life advice for Tate though?
April: Oh, yeah. I'll tell him later. Okay.
Shubh: Okay. After, uh, that thrilling preamble, uh, Tate's life hasn't changed, uh, but Tate or April, whomever wants to go first. Do you have an idea you would like to pitch us today?
April: I thought he was supposed to give me advice on how to pitch properly. Did you pitch an idea when you were here?
Shubh: If you listen to the episode?
April: I don't listen to podcasts. I'm sorry. I actually don't. What? I know Darcy. Darcy was scar me before this. Darcy's like are, I'm like, are they gonna make fun of me? And he's like, I'm the audio lister. I just
Shubh: dropped the mic.
April: Sorry.
Shubh: And [00:17:00] left. Oh, we have video today. Actually, I don't need to describe what you don't to, yeah, yeah, yeah.
April: Okay. What's the advice for me then?
Tate: Well, I, I love this idea, even though it's an idea that was just pitched on the podcast
April: furious
Tate: about by the way week, which is a crazy coincidence,
Shubh: honestly, only like four people put up in their hands saying they listened to the podcast
Tate: soon. So, so April, um,
April: I told you like a month ago.
Tate: So a, yeah, a about a month ago. April goes, I got this amazing idea for the show. Um,
Shubh: this doesn't sound like advice.
Tate: It might be. Um, so, so she goes, I've got this amazing idea for the, the show like Tate, your, your, your wife is a, a flight attendant. And my husband's a a pilot. He's a pilot. Pilot,
April: yeah.
Shubh: A balding pilot,
Tate: both working in the airline industry and,
April: and Tate and I travel a lot.
Tate: We travel too much.
April: Yeah.
Tate: And April goes, I got an idea all about, well, can I say it?
April: Yeah. Like on raiding passengers?
Shubh: Yeah. Okay. You know what? Let's do the idea. We've had [00:18:00]
April: a similar pitch, but let's
Shubh: do it.
April: But the preamble was that Tate text me two days ago and he's like. Yeah. No, you sent me a voice note. You were like, you were like, you need to listen to this right now.
Shubh: You know what the greatest part is?
Tate: So she tells me we're, I'm gonna pitch this idea where you can rate people in the airport.
Shubh: Yeah. Okay. Do it on the plane. On the plane. Listen, these people don't, they haven't heard the idea. Only Darcy heard the idea. The one that came out on Sunday. The one Darcy knows the young
Philippe: guy.
Okay.
Shubh: Yeah. So I'm just saying, pretend nobody's pitched it. Hit us with the idea, Phil And I will tell you if it was better than the other person's idea.
Philippe: Yeah. Hit us.
Tate: I, I still think it's a crazy coincidence, regardless if
Philippe: Yeah. Someone we're
Shubh: trying to move on to the pitch.
Philippe: Hit us.
April: I, I will pitch it. I
Shubh: will say
April: I went to, yeah, I went to Tate to be like, Hey, what do you think about this also?
So everyone knows Tate lost his nexus, just so you know. They got it. He got it revoked recently. You got your
Philippe: nexus revoked.
Shubh: Okay. We have to hear that. But later, I don't know April.
April: Okay. Pitch. Okay, pitch
Shubh: our idea please. [00:19:00]
April: Um. Yes. So, and I have a bunch of notes 'cause I'm very do yeah, I'm sorry. Um, I named the company Altitudes and it's going to be a plugin to say your WestJet Rewards program.
Both of our spouses work at WestJet. So that's what I've got. Um, I took 92 flights last year, you guys 92 flights. So I spend a lot of time on airplanes and the, and you would think that I would get used to like people in general and airports and things, and I'm not, it infuriates me travel makes me so, can I swear on the show?
Am I alone? Yeah, sure. Uh,
Shubh: yeah.
April: How do I get in trouble? Travel makes me so fucking angry. Yeah. Often because, we'll leave that. I'll say I, sorry.
Shubh: I'm just kidding. We
April: absolutely, I feel like you get, you can take the most. Intelligent, educated person and drop them into an airport and they become a fucking idiot.
I don't know what happens.
Shubh: They're the worst places on earth.
April: It's, I don't know what happens to people walking
Tate: and then they just stop. Mid walk. Yeah,
April: [00:20:00] all they stand there. Just all of it. Or you see people go through security and it's like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Be, and they're like, oh, sorry, I forgot this in my pet.
And then beep, beep, beep, beep be, oh, I forgot I had that. And it's like, oh my God. Have you ever been in an airport before and you'd think there'd be better lines? You're not allowed in the, in the good line anymore. I'm reminding you
Shubh: now you know how it feels for me.
April: Um, anyways, my idea is a scorecard that is linked to it would be a plugin, an integration to your WestJet rewards program where you can rate the person beside you so they always know what seats you're in.
And when you get off the plane, much like Uber, you can give a rating. Um, the rating metrics I have all documented here. Um, number one, space and things. So were you an overhead bin hog? Did you bring three personal items when you were not allowed to do so? Also, can I just say, oh, I, I live in very, we're an a very gray world.
Like I don't like rules, but I fucking love rules on the airplane. Um, [00:21:00] did you have armrest domination? If you don't know that the middle seat gets both armrest. Get off the plane?
Philippe: Both.
April: Both. They get both. They're stuck in the middle. If you're on the aisle. Wait,
Shubh: I don't dunno if that
April: this way.
Philippe: Is that true?
I think you can share, I think you can share an armrest. Yeah, I agree with Philippe. But they gotta be kind of up. But they get Then somebody goes forward, somebody goes, backs interlink.
April: I have had full, let's do it right now.
Philippe: Yeah, you can do that. You can share. I
Tate: think. Hold on.
April: April. Wait, someone touched me and my arm was there.
And then like
Tate: did, did you see, by the way, WestJet has banned shoe uh uh, shoes. Shoes? Or was that a.
April: April that the April fool, April Pool. Was he
Tate: obvious? I dunno. I
April: obviously,
Tate: I thought that it would be pretty great. He did introduce himself as a dumb white
Shubh: male that
April: you're, you're a one star person on my
Tate: right.
Listen, I I saw the email. I didn't click the email. [00:22:00] A great idea. Keep scoring.
April: I'm gonna keep going. It would be
Philippe: nice though if you took him off
April: before you got into plane.
Tate: Excuse me. I mean, there should not be any.
Shubh: Hey
Tate: guys,
Shubh: bare
Tate: feet.
Shubh: Let's make space for April. Please
April: stop speaking over me. Men intact. Yes.
You
Shubh: fucking jerks.
April: Go. Did you block the aisle while boarding? Are you one of those idiots? Yeah. That took so long to put your stuff aside and take your jacket off, like step into your row. Like the flight attendants say. That'll docu points also. Next one, noise and smell. I will say I traveled a lot with vegetables and one time I realized I had my headphones on and I was eating celery very loudly.
I probably would've lost points for that one. Um, did you watch something without headphones on? That makes me wanna scream.
Shubh: That's mostly anywhere
April: and they're like scrolling
Shubh: TikTok if you're doing that. Okay, let's be honest. Anybody here watch stuff on their phone or iPad without headphones? Anywhere
April: or, or FaceTime anywhere?
Do you FaceTime people without your fricking headphones on?
Shubh: Good God.
April: Stop. Stop doing that. This is good. Yeah. Um, [00:23:00] strong food order odors brought on board. So I had someone that was flying to Comox last week. Don't say eggs was itt. Tape flies to come all the time. Like fish jerky. Oh, it was like 10:00 AM.
That's disgusting. Are you serious?
Tate: Anyway, where Where are we at with like peanut butter jelly sandwiches? Like can you have peanut butter on a plane? Yes. It's nuts.
April: My son, my son is anaphylactic to all tree nuts and I will let the flight attendants know, Hey, can you guys not eat cashews like in the row before?
So typically they will let people know. But flight attendant, I did have a flight attendant once who was like, Nope, sorry. We can't, we like can't ban people from doing that. So I, my son was like one at the time and I held him up as a baby and I was like, Hey guys, see this cute baby. I'm like, please don't kill him.
And I just, I went around to the aisles around me 'cause the flight attendant refused to,
Philippe: I have to be honest. You would lose points for doing that. I would give you a one
April: star.
Philippe: So cute.
Shubh: I was just about to say, this sounds like a business [00:24:00] idea. Just hold up a baby and say, eh, whatever you want. Right? Like, uh, hey, I've got this baby.
Can I sit in first class?
Philippe: Right.
Shubh: Would that work?
Philippe: Can this
April: little baby come? I
Shubh: feel like that's, oh, it doesn't work.
April: I'm not even halfway through the metrics. Let's, oh God. Let's keep going. Okay. Snoring. I will say my husband, who is a pilot, has told me before that he's fallen asleep on the plane and woke up when he had his mouth open and was snoring, uh, loudly in uniform.
Do you want us to edit that
Shubh: part out?
April: No. He'll be okay. He's commuting. No, he was flying.
Shubh: Not while he's flying.
April: He's commuting.
Shubh: So he wasn't flying at the time?
April: He was not flying. Oh, I thought
Shubh: he was flying at the time.
April: Also on the plane, he, on a 7, 8, 7, there's actually beds, so he does sleep on the plane. But they have beds.
They have like specific beds for pilots.
Shubh: As long as what he's doing is legal.
April: He's, yeah, he's always legal.
Shubh: We'll, we'll take that pause
April: out. Um, yeah, we'll, we'll remove that. Yeah. Social behavior. So did you ignore basic plea please or thank yous to the crew? [00:25:00] Crews need that stuff. You know, your wife is a flight attendant.
Be respectful to the crew. Be kind to them. They're there to help you. When people are rude to the crew, docked points,
a
Tate: couple little candies or like chocolate bars or
April: something do like, create. Do they like that? I heard they don't love
Tate: it. No, they love it. And what
Shubh: about like a puck
April: pocket? Wheres does your life come home and like, have a bunch of trees?
Tate: Well,
Shubh: a lot of people, people give your wife candy. A
Tate: a a lot of people, a lot of people bring like Starbucks gift cards and stuff as
April: well. Yeah, that's good.
Shubh: Why? What
April: extra points?
Tate: Because, because I don't know. I mean, I think,
Shubh: okay, well I mean
Tate: you, you give like a $5 Starbucks gift card to the crew of six people, cost you 30 bucks, but then you can get free drinks for the entire flight.
Shubh: Mm. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's a
Tate: good
April: thing. Maybe we'll edit that out because fighter tenants are not giving away. What if
Shubh: I ask them for a coffee? What if I ask them for a coffee and just give it back to them? You know, cut out the middleman. That could work too.
April: Okay.
Guest: That
Shubh: joke
April: was, um, were you rude or dismissive to other passengers?
Did [00:26:00] you talk nonstop? When the other person had headphones in that happened to me recently, this guy kept, and I kept like being like, yes again. Oh. And he would tap me to talk to me again. You lose my, that's horrible. Yep. Okay, next one. Um, where, where
Tate: are we at with the disruption of sleep? Like if, if someone's
April: sleeping attendant?
Tate: No, if you're sleeping, then someone has to like, yeah. Like if April husband's
April: asleep in, the pilots are the
Shubh: copilot
April: to get up.
Tate: Yeah.
April: You have to get up.
Philippe: I feel like you're
Tate: saying I don't because you do that all
Philippe: the time.
Tate: I'm
April: no, I'm I I'm aisle LC. I'm ILC. I know, I'm What you starting? Is
Tate: it 10, 10 stars?
April: Uh, it's five.
I'm almost there.
Tate: Yeah. I'm probably
April: giving you
Tate: like a two.
April: Who are you? Okay. Um, barefoot in public spaces. Automatic. No. Megan just saw my Instagram post. There was a guy on the plane recently, you guys that was barefoot on the plane and he took his shoes off and, and I was like, did he have socks on? No, he was barefoot.
Yeah. No, I think socks is okay. Dock points. Did you use the tray table as a [00:27:00] footrest? Dock points? Did you leave your whole row a disaster zone for the flight attendants to clean up dock points? Did you smell bad when your shoes came off? Extra dock points? 'cause it was gross. Um, positive ratings. Did you help someone with their bag?
You get extra positive ratings. Did you switch seats for a family? 'cause maybe they weren't able to sit together? It depends. I don't know. Someone asked me once to like, move out of a business class seat. No way. They did to sit with their spouse. That's not right. And did you say yes or you said no and to go from row three to four?
And I was like, no, absolutely not.
Philippe: Good for you. Good for you.
April: Um, did you give the, did you say thank you to the crew? Did you keep it clean? Quiet, considerate. Okay, so we record
Tate: it. Is there, is there like a mediation? Like what I'm wondering is now he might dock viewpoints. For not allowing the seat change, right?
April: Yeah, he might.
Tate: Feels like, is there like an over, is there, like, what's gonna happen?
April: Here's a good point is ratings are anonymous. They're aggregated over time. So no single bad day will kill your score, right? Mm-hmm. Like you have to go through [00:28:00] all four, five of those metrics. I can, I, I know it's perfect.
Shubh: I think Phil and I are gonna jump in and say the same thing.
So I'll go and then you go.
April: I haven't even went through the reward system yet.
Shubh: Well, it's my show. I mean, um, you said no single bad day. Well kill your rating. Uh, I still, uh, am not. A perfect Uber rating because of, uh, one of my friends who's here tonight and a trip in Arizona like 10 years ago. Is it Joe?
It's not Joe. Shout out Neil. Uh, my friends thought it would be hilarious to be the loudest human beings in the world in an, in an Uber, and then the Uber driver, and I'm still paying for it. So I I don't agree with your
April: That one Bad day can,
Shubh: yeah. I think one bad day could really just ruin your whole life.
Philippe: Mm-hmm. I was gonna, I was gonna rapid fire a couple that are missing from your list. Okay. Okay. Let's hear. Uh, reclining your seat on a domestic flight.
April: Yes. That's you. That's a lot. Right? A lot. Or without looking back to see if that person has a drink on their trade table or a laptop open.
Philippe: Yeah.
April: Agree.
Philippe: Totally. Yeah. Or I've had this [00:29:00] one before. Uh, a woman long hair. I'm watching tv. All of a sudden, hair on the back of the seats. And I'm going, are you kidding? I'm gonna like to, to watch my show. That's insane. Uh, uh, so that one is crazy. Um, that's the losing points. And then you, you're missing this one, which is crazy.
Which is the, which is the, the, the unloading when anyone tries to skip a line when Deboarding
April: Oh, the
Philippe: world. Get out, boo. Thank you.
April: Okay, boo. I, I actually stopped a ummomentum from doing that recently about, about, I'm so aggressive. I stepped into the aisle. I did, I stepped into the, also a woman as I was like walking up to board, I had my boarding pass out and my nexus in my hand, and I'm like this far away, giving space to the person in front of me.
And I go to board and some girl came in front of me and like went to board. And I, and I looked at her and she caught me off guard and I was like. Wow. Really? I said that, wait, hold on a sec. And she kept boarding. And then the, [00:30:00] the CSA who was checking me, and he was like, oh, I thought you were joking. You knew her.
You didn't know her. And I said, no, I didn't know her. She just jumped in front of me. He's like, oh, sorry. Then we get down and they were, they were holding us at, at the door. And so I walked up beside her and I was like, good thing you jumped in front of me, huh? And she, whoa,
Philippe: let's go. You should have stepped in front of a her.
Can I, can I said this is my place. And
April: can I, uh, my, when my employees travel with me, one of them said recently in our team Slack, they're like, my favorite animal is April in an airport.
Shubh: Can I just say, uh, two things here? Uh, one is, um, you didn't explicitly say farting.
April: Mm, I have a, can I tell a story about that really quickly?
Philippe: Quickly? Yeah, yeah,
April: yeah. It's gotta be quick though. One of my first jobs, I worked in the WestJet call center and I worked on the escalation team. And so anything before it became a legal file came across my desk. I had a, I shit you not you guys. I had a case once where a woman I written in multiple times because she had upgraded herself and her two [00:31:00] daughters to a premium on the planes and she had upgraded a check-in, so she was looking for a refund of like $250.
And the reason, was it because someone farted on the plane? While she was there and she wrote, and I quote, I expect a fart free environment. I'm not kidding you. And I had to reply to this woman and be like, it's public transit. We cannot, I, I was like, I can't believe this is my job. We cannot confirm. There will always be a fart free environment on a West Jet plan every day.
Shubh: I gotta say, I'm, I'm with this woman
Philippe: I'm with. Yeah. Are you, are you losing points on your thing on fighting? Are you docking someone if they're little? Yeah. It's
Shubh: a hard zero.
Philippe: Yeah,
April: that falls
Shubh: over. Can I it? Okay. So also social behavior. You just called out, you got a person while you're getting on the plane.
Who, who pulled some shady stuff? How do I rate them?
April: You can't, it has to only be your seatmate.
Shubh: Oh
April: yeah.
Philippe: I
April: wish could, I mean, unless there's a way we could, I could flesh out the idea. Mark. Just take a
Philippe: picture. I, I feel like you could have the, the whole seat map and [00:32:00] just like scope the number and be like, I just take one star.
I
Shubh: just take a picture of you when you're doing some shady shit insecurity. And then when I'm on the plane, I'm just doing this.
Philippe: Right? Yeah. This is
Shubh: just like,
Philippe: and the
Shubh: AI is picking you up.
Philippe: So surveillance state. Okay. What about, uh, crying babies? Do we hate them or, or we don't mind them?
April: No. We feel so bad for the
Philippe: parents.
I feel bad for him too.
April: You feel so bad, bad for parents. No. Sorry. He asks about the
Shubh: baby,
Philippe: right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Are you at all annoyed or you're just like, noise dancing headphones.
April: What the fuck
Shubh: is with this baby?
April: Don,
Tate: shut up. The baby becomes an adult and they're like, why is my rating so bad?
Shubh: It's like the, the baby crying is like Neil in the uber. 15 years. It never leaves.
Philippe: Okay. Uh, but we should move on,
April: uh, based on time. So I should tell about your rating system. I, the rating and consequence system. Let me pull it up here.
Shubh: Just
Philippe: she's still scrolling.
April: Okay. So if you have a five star, you are an elite flyer.
You get priority boarding, preferred seat selection for free and [00:33:00] lounge access, four star good passenger, so you get early boarding group free seat upgrades when they're available. Three star your neutral standard experience. No change to what? You've got two star, you are flagged. You are a middle seat only and you board with the last group.
Number one problem passenger. You are rear of the plane last aboard and you are flagged for crew awareness. So they all know put him by the bathroom idiot. Yeah. So then they all know you're an idiot. It's
Shubh: farts all flight.
Philippe: I think that could be like a no fly zone to be honest. Like you, that's if you're one guy like, take the bus my friend.
Yeah.
April: Via rail only.
Shubh: What do you,
Philippe: you
Shubh: got
Philippe: a
Shubh: name for this thing?
April: Altitude.
Shubh: Oh, you said that already.
Philippe: Altitude is so good. I'm
Shubh: gonna take that question out in post so I sound really smart.
April: That's it. That's my pitch.
Philippe: Uh, what do you guys think of that pitch?
Shubh: Uh, we rate out of 75 salsas on this, uh, podcast. You [00:34:00] will have to go back to episode one.
Or any episode, 'cause we explain it every time. Uh, Philippe, what would you, what would you rate
Philippe: this? I, I would love to rate it more than Craig de Cruz's, which is the guy who pitched it last week. Yeah. Um, so whatever that is, plus one, but I forget what I gave him, so. Yeah. I also forget, I'm gonna give it 65 outta a 75.
I think that's better than his. Okay.
Shubh: Yeah. Yours was quite a bit, uh,
Philippe: more fleshed out.
Shubh: Sorry, Craig. Uh, we're very well prepared. Um, I also hate people, I hate is a strong word. I, I tell my kids not to use that word. I really dislike flying with people who are bad at flying. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. I think it's probably like a 65 for me too.
Yeah. That's a very good score.
Philippe: That's a great score. Go ahead.
Shubh: Thank you April. Uh, Tate, thanks for helping April out
April: here for it. Does Tate not get to rate.
Philippe: Yeah. What do you think?
Shubh: He's not on 75? Yeah. Yeah. You can rate it this time. Better be. It's the only time we're 75.
Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah. No dude. Now look like
assholes.
I [00:35:00] look like an asshole. T
Philippe: Yeah, that's true. Dude. 65. That was getting them getting a two star for that, whatever that outrage was. Yeah. You did
that on the plane.
Shubh: Did you know sign
Philippe: like,
Shubh: guys, if you're gonna scream on a podcast middle seat, take the mic away from middle. Did you see how I did that? So everybody was, yeah.
Anyway,
Philippe: uh, yeah, that's right. Okay. I'm excited. We should implement this at Tech Thursday and I could raid all the audience members. I
Shubh: like that.
Philippe: I'm joking. I Gregory,
Shubh: what would you rate the person beside you? Oh, it's my wife. You? Yeah. Yep. That
Philippe: five stars. Yeah. Five stars for Ru's wife. T do you have idea to pitch us?
Tate: No,
Philippe: don't. No.
Shubh: This is the second time you've come on the pod without an idea to pitch us.
Tate: I was, I was told to not have an idea.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Oh really?
Tate: Yeah.
I
Shubh: mean, oh, you were
Tate: just
Philippe: hanging out.
Tate: That's what I was
Philippe: told. That's what you told t to come on. Not out
Shubh: life advice. He says he was told, I don't even know that we talked about anything.
Tate: This is why I found this all a little strange.
Shubh: Hey, listen, your, your presence here added a lot of value for that one baby joke. [00:36:00]
Philippe: It's true.
Shubh: Which was the best joke of the pot so far.
Philippe: Uh, there are a lot of people in the
Shubh: audience who pitches, so, uh, uh, does anybody in the audience have an idea they would like to pitch us?
Philippe: Oh
Shubh: yeah. Get on up here.
Shy: Oh, I gotta
go
Shubh: up here. No, no you don't. No, you don't. Sorry. That's, uh, no, no. What we do is we leave this seat empty. Okay. And then depending on your score, you can, no, I'm just kidding. Okay. Alright. What was, and sir, your name is,
Guest: uh, my name is Anke.
Shubh: I anke.
Guest: Um, okay, so last year at university I noticed there was a lot of free food that went wasted at events.
Yeah. So I built this website called Snack Radar and it's called
Shubh: what sir?
Guest: It's called Snack Radar.
Shubh: Snack Radar.
Guest: Yeah. Yeah. So I built this website and took part in pitch competition and, um, so far since last year, about a hundred people every single day use the platform to find free food. We have saved over thousands of pounds of food from getting wasted at UFL.
And right now, sorry. What does it do? Yeah, so basically the platform [00:37:00] event organizers go on the platform post about the free food, and then students go into the platform, find where the free food is, where the location is, and what time to what time it's available, and what is available. So,
Shubh: snack Radar, it's a real website.
Guest: It is a real website.
Shubh: This is also very similar to an idea that Craig pitched, except this man went and built it. Yep.
Guest: You
Shubh: can check it out
Guest: on snack radar.ca.
Shubh: Hey Phil, what are you gonna do with all the free food leftover from this, uh, event? Um,
Philippe: uh,
Shubh: there's no food.
Philippe: We don't do free food.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, snack radar.
Do ca ca snack radar.ca. April, what you
Philippe: think that idea? Yeah. Five stars. I love
April: snacks. Yeah.
Shubh: Five.
April: I love snacks. Yeah.
Philippe: Five. Food. If you, if you saw free food, would you run, run to it?
Shubh: How many, how many? Depends how many, how many students in the crowd? Would you guys like free food? Always? Yeah.
Philippe: Would you?
Shubh: All right.
Philippe: Well,
Shubh: yeah, you, you
Philippe: should do Snack
Shubh: Radar Us. Yeah,
Philippe: do do both of you guys Wish free. Free
Shubh: sent you? Uh, I You, I, oh, that's
Philippe: University of Leftbridge [00:38:00] to Calgary and UA soon. So all Well, that's awesome.
Shubh: Thank
Philippe: you. Did you guys think there was free food here? Is that why you guys came?
Shubh: Because there, there isn't.
There
Philippe: isn't.
Shubh: There's
Philippe: not. Uh, okay. Uh uh Alright. That was a good pitch. Uh, who else wants to pitch?
Shubh: Yeah, shy. Shy. Wait. Don't use a good one that you're gonna use when you come on the actual pod.
Shy: I thought this was a real
Shubh: episode. Uh, Cheyenne. Cheyenne, Ron, everybody. Uh,
Shy: hello? Everyone. Shy. Y you come up to the
Shubh: front.
Yeah, you get to come. Sorry. An but take
April: Phil's seat.
Shubh: Okay. Well listen, I mean, to be fair, well, I'm,
Shy: I'm, I'm just
Shubh: their neck. You feel, you feel fine about this? Uh, shy and, uh, I and Tate worked together for many years, so. If you and I worked together for many years, you can also come sit up here.
Shy: Yeah. Sounds, sounds like you should start offering chips on snack attack or whatever it, snack radar.
Shubh: Snack radar dot c.
Shy: Snack attack. I like
Shubh: that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Shai
Shy: also considering,
Shubh: Hey buddy, good to see [00:39:00] you.
Shy: Hey, how's it going?
Shubh: I haven't talked to you in a couple hours. What's uh, what do you got for us?
Shy: Picture this, you're sick and you've just sneezed. There are boogers just streaming from your face.
Tate: You are getting at
Shy: one star. Where is Phil? Okay. Hey, hey. I'm like, he's in the crowd. I'm pitching to you and, and him and do you guys have booger? No. No, no.
Shubh: He's got, what do you think that mustache is
Shy: for? I suffer from a thing where when I get sick, I'm sick for like weeks. You guys know this, right? It's '
Shubh: cause he, he lives with a cat that he's permanently allergic, still comes into the office.
Shy: I inherited the cat when I chose
April: Kay. You let him pitch.
Shy: Okay, so booger's running down your face. You go to get a Kleenex. It's sitting on the counter and the Kleenexes are inside the box, like below the membrane, and now you gotta fish them out. Right? What a royal paint in the ass, right? Like you're sitting there, you're like, what?
And then when you go to get them, the little folding mechanism's not working well, so you like try and grab one, but you end up grabbing [00:40:00] 17 fucking Kleenexes, right? Right. And then you're like, okay, I've just wasted 20% of this box of Kleenexes, which are getting expensive. Right? Okay. Right. Okay.
April: Okay. Yeah.
Shy: Okay.
April: The
Shy: real problem. So, okay, so problem solution. Okay. Have you ever seen one of those things where you, like, you like pull the, the springy thing to put an iPad in it, like an iPad stand. Okay. So picture that, but remove the iPad stand part a bit, just the springy thing. And then put two stretchy pieces of, um, like plastic on it.
So it makes a little membrane, right? It's better than the cheap crap that comes with the Kleenex boxes and you just like stretch it over the clin box. Put it on, pull the Kleenex through and it'll, you'll never have that problem again.
April: I'm so lost.
Shy: No, I got it.
Shubh: I lost you At the iPad.
April: I lo Yeah. iPad
Shubh: spring.
It's a Kleenex box. Uh uh, you know how people talk about building wrappers around AI for products? This is a wrapper. This is a wrapper for [00:41:00] Kleenex box for Kle Box that makes the Kleenex accessible to people who can't get the Kleen. Did
Shy: I lose anyone
Shubh: else? What's it called? Hai.
Shy: Oh, shit.
Shubh: Oh, you don't have a name?
April: It's gotta be with Membranes. Something.
Shy: Usually your guests, you collaborate with them a little bit, right? Yeah,
Philippe: but we're live.
Shy: Okay.
Philippe: Tell Oh yeah. Phil Phil's got, I, I was thinking that, that, you know how Kleenex, it always has the, uh, like when you first open it, it's, it's cardboard that you pull off, right?
Yes, correct. Yeah. What if that was tissues? Oh, so in emergencies, those are tissues and uh, you can use that. You know what I mean? I mean, so it's like you, what
Tate: if the box is made of tissues?
Philippe: Yeah. What, what if the top layer, what if thinks of tissue? Right. Exactly. But, so it's obviously gross 'cause it's been exposed, but like you've just, you know, you've sneezed everywhere.
There's booger's everywhere. I
Shy: mean,
Philippe: so
Shy: like, it, it feels like you're solving a different problem. I'm,
April: I feel like I'm listening to my two children talk right now. Yeah.
Philippe: I got a name
Shubh: for it. The
April: middle
Shubh: of two. It's gonna be called, I got tissues.
Shy: Ah,
Shubh: yeah, I got
April: tissues. Something about membrane
Shy: stretch. Brain stretch.
Shubh: I don't think there's anywhere [00:42:00] good we can go with membrane.
April: Insane in the membrane.
Shy: Ooh, that's pretty good.
Shubh: Snot. It's snot. Snot now. It's
April: not lost.
Shubh: It's snots. I can't believe it's not Kleenex. No, that's not,
Shy: no, no, no.
Shubh: Okay, we'll come back. Okay.
Shy: We'll come back
Shubh: to it. But that was really good. Yeah. And then I laughed so hard I cried.
Shy: There it is.
April: Phil can have a seat back now.
Shubh: And also
Philippe: it's
Shubh: a real problem. Oh, we're wrapping up.
Philippe: No, no, no. Uh, anyone else wanna pitch
Shubh: somebody?
Philippe: Uh, we got one here. What's that?
April: Oh yeah, we didn't score him.
Philippe: Oh. Which, oh, go him.
Shubh: Uh, what do you got?
Philippe: Uh, I don't understand what this is. So this is like, this is like five outta 75 for me.
Shubh: I don't think No, no. You got a box of Kleenex. You can't get the Kleenex out. This thing is gonna surface the Kleenex up for you.
Philippe: It comes with a little pickers even.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: How is this? I don't understand. Like,
Shubh: and, and this technology could be applied in the restroom when you have a hard time getting the, the paper towel out.
Philippe: This is only really a problem when I'm like, I've sneezed. It's in my arm, and [00:43:00] like it's pouring down and I can't, you know, like, it's like once in a year spending
Shy: $70 a month on Kleenex.
Philippe: Like, yeah, $70 a month is insane.
Shubh: Uh, I, I, listen, I think this idea has got some likes. Uh, I don't think it's great, but I think it's, you know, it's not five, it's 40.
It's 37.
Philippe: 37.
Shubh: Okay. I'll, I'll match that. 37.
Philippe: Yeah. You like that? Yeah. April, what you think?
April: Sure.
Shubh: Yeah. April's like, what is this shit? Yeah. Yeah.
April: My kid would come up
Shubh: with that. Thanks to Shy. That was amazing.
April: Thanks Hai. Nice.
Philippe: Anyone else over here? Guys? There's one more.
Shubh: Oh, we had a couple over here. Oh yeah. These guys look like they're making real pitches though.
Philippe: Okay. Right here.
Guest2: Is it only jokes or
Philippe: No, no, no. Here is,
Shubh: oh, well, no, I, no, I guess business like, yeah.
Guest2: Oh, that's okay. I need all the constructive feedback. It's not
Shubh: gonna be constructive at all.
Guest2: Hi, who are you's? Okay. My name is z uh, during my nine to five, I'm a data [00:44:00] architect for a lithium mining company of lithium
Shubh: mining company.
Guest2: Yes. Thick. Love that. Uh, E three, uh, and from my five to nine and what I'm pitching, it's called Nest quest.ca
Shubh: Nest.
Guest2: Nest Quest. Yes.
Shubh: You looking for birds?
Guest2: Yes. Little birds.
Yes. That one of mine. Wait for real.
Shubh: You're looking for birds?
Guest2: No, no. Oh. Essentially it's a tinder for houses. Uh, and you, any anybody goes onto
Shubh: houses are inanimate objects. They could not date each other.
Guest2: Alright. Tinder for houses. You swipe left and right. Yep. On the houses that you like, you get connected to a realtor.
Houses
April: that are for sale.
Guest2: Yes. No, no, no. From the MLS system. I like it better if
Shubh: it's just any house. I'm gonna take your house. I've seen his house. It's nice. I'm gonna get it.
Guest2: I'm gonna cheat on it.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah.
Guest2: Here's the kicker though. All real estate services are at 1% flat rate. So it doesn't matter if you sell your house for a million dollars or $200,000, it's a 1% flat rate.
And so we provide all the realtor services for that. So, and
Shubh: it's a nest quest.
Guest2: Nest quest. Ca ca. Don't search it up. Tin for house. Nice. Yeah. Okay. Uh, but [00:45:00] it is, uh, it is life.
Shubh: It
Tate: works. Love it. Big Tinder fan. Here. You?
Guest2: No,
Shubh: not anymore.
Tate: Not anymore.
Shubh: No.
Tate: Thank you. But, but, but big Tinder fan. I met my, uh, my significant other on Tinder.
Shy: Oh. Oh.
Shubh: Did you meet your house? Did you meet your story? Wait, hold on. Did you meet your house on Tinder?
Tate: I, I did not, but I can now with Nest Quest. Okay.
Shubh: Uh, z It was Zuck. Zuck. Um, I'm gonna be pretty honest.
Philippe: I hate this idea.
Shubh: I, but, but, but instead of focusing on the negative like Phil likes to do, let's get back to this finding Little bird's idea.
Philippe: Yeah, yeah,
Shubh: yeah, yeah. Sometimes you just want a little bird. 'cause there's a lot of big angry birds. I would like a little bird.
Philippe: Yeah, I, I used to, I used to pick apples, uh, in Tasmania, and, uh, one time I came across What kind of apples? Uh, uh, uh, well, golden Delicious, red Delicious, Fuji. Uh, we had it all, we had it all on the farm, but one time I came across.
A little baby nest, a cockatiels nest. And I have a video on my [00:46:00] phone. I'm happy to show it. And it, it's a little baby with a, it's fully bald and it's going, ah, it was
Shubh: crying. It was crying. It
Philippe: was
one
Shubh: star.
Philippe: It was crazy. It, it was like the coolest thing. And this is a nest. You're lying. I'm not lying. I have this video.
I have this what?
April: Story.
Philippe: Well, well all I'm saying is if Nest Quest, that TA had Real Bird's Nest and then it was a quest where like on a Saturday I could go, I'm gonna go check out some Nest and then it would take me to the Nest. That would be so sick. I would use that. Okay. Would you not use that?
April: I gonna, I'm gonna give you real feedback because I love realtor.ca and they're actually my clients too, and I'm on there all the time.
I like it. Shout out
Shubh: Realtor. Do ca
April: sponsor this podcast. Um, but I like the idea. I don't hate it. Phil, what do you like about it? It's so rude. No, no, I dunno. Because I sit around a realtor about ca all the time and look at stuff. My husband's always like, we're not moving. Stop looking. Um, but I would, I feel like I would use it all the time.
Tate: [00:47:00] Could you make this a couple's activity where like you're both, you know how there's like the baby name one where you, you swipe and you don't know that one? No.
April: Why do you know that one?
Tate: Well, there, there, there's one for baby names. He
Shubh: was wondering what the name of that baby on the airplane was,
Tate: where, where you can swipe and then you, you, you see if you both like the baby name the same right?
And it narrows it down. I wonder if you do the same with hose. You both have the tinder swipes. See which ones you land
April: on. If you could swipe and set it up, what if it was every house on the planet? And then if the house you like comes up for sale here, here's notify you. Here's a real
Shubh: that's here's a real Yes, thank you.
This is the ticket, not just houses that for sale. All the houses. No, I'm serious. And then like April said, you have some kind of like alert that tells me when that house is coming up. Then I'm into,
Tate: or, or for rent. You could even tie it into like an Airbnb.
Shubh: Then, uh, then I'm signing up for Nest quest.ca.
What's the, uh, domain? That's exactly what it is. Nest quest. Do ca
Philippe: All right. Sorry. Can I be honest about my feedback? Exactly. I, why I hit it is 'cause I feel like I've seen three or [00:48:00] four people build stuff like this and it never goes anywhere. And so I always have to tell 'em, yeah, that's great. People would use that.
But like no one has figured out how to get people to use that. So if you can figure out how you can get people to use that doesn't
April: mean you can't figure it out though.
Philippe: Doesn't mean you can't figure it out. I can realtor in about five, 10 years. Let's go do it
April: on as a vendor. Yeah,
Shubh: but make sure, yeah.
April's gonna wrap up or like that?
April: Make
Shubh: sure
April: we're still working there.
Shubh: Hey, uh, thank you for pitching. Yeah. Uh, there was another one. We had One more I think. Yes. One
April: more right there.
Shubh: A couple. No one's gonna pitch after that. After Phil is, shits all over there. Right there.
April: Okay. Wait. Do we have a woman? I was gonna, we have a woman.
Let's go. Sorry. Enough men in tech in this room. Go, Megan.
Guest3: All right. So it's not. Maybe that funny, but Okay.
Shubh: That's
Guest3: the
Shubh: funniest idea
Guest3: for people's business lived experience. Uh, started a company with my newcomer husband. Yep. So we're both entrepreneurs. He's a newcomer. I'm thinking we need a global credit [00:49:00] rating system so you don't need two years.
There is a company, I've now researched this called Nova Credit, but it's still dealing with the big banks.
Shubh: This is a fucking great idea for real. Tate, you're, uh, founded at one of Canada's most successful fintechs. So if anyone wants to, what do you think about this idea?
Tate: I think it's a great idea. I I actually know the guys at Nova Credit, um,
Shubh: sponsors.
Tate: Yeah. Sponsors of the pod could be sponsored of the pod future. Yeah. Future sponsors of the pod. What do we think goes into that credit score? Like, 'cause you said, you, you said that it, it, it, uh. Right now Nova credit's a thing, but it's still with the big banks.
Shubh: Can, can I just before you do that, can I, so a little bit of context for those who don't know.
When you come to this country new, it is very hard to do everything financially. Yeah. 'cause you have no Canadian existing credit rating. It's hard to get. Like, uh, credit cards, hard to get accounts, how to get loans hard to get everything. You have to basically start over from scratch. So Yes sir.
April: And [00:50:00] there are people looking into it.
'cause there's a mortgage company right now specifically for entrepreneurs. 'cause same thing, you need to pay yourself for two years to be able to get a mortgage. Right. I found a
Guest3: broker that will deal with us
April: and
Guest3: they will, they will take the, the Mexican
April: I did too. It was a Fri name. I literally had to send an article of me in Forbes to Scotiabank.
Was like, you, my fucking was a great April
Shubh: to just talk about how you've been in Forbes.
April: I was in Forbes twice. Lemme tell you this random story,
Tate: Forbes
April: I sent to Scotia, but it's a crazy, it's a crazy thing.
Tate: So take, keep going. Sorry. Well, I was so like Nova Credit ports it from the, from the original place.
Right, right. And they basically clean it up and then
Guest3: of
Tate: make it available for, for the Canadian banks. So one of
Guest3: problem is like even in Europe, every single country has a different system. You know, like for example in Spain you, they only like all the negative things just keep stacking up and you start at a great.
Whereas in you get a hundred points in Germany and they just start taking them away.
Tate: Do you think they come here and they start fresh? Or are you wanting to port [00:51:00] stuff from their place?
Guest3: Good question.
April: Wait. And we would like to, do they rate, do they rate different debts differently in different countries?
Okay. Fascinating. Well,
Shubh: let's just, I mean for a second here, can we talk about what the credit rating system in general?
Guest3: So for example, I didn't know like one problem. I, I have been banking with one of the biggest, you know, one of the top five for 30 plus years. Yeah.
Shubh: You
Guest3: can
Shubh: say their name. If you're gonna say something nice, you can say their name.
Guest3: No, I'm not gonna say something nice.
Shubh: You can still say their name.
Guest3: The only bank that has been in Supportive is a TB,
Shubh: shout out a TB
Guest3: that we've done
Shubh: sponsors of, uh, the Founder's Mindset two weeks from now, tech Thursday live recording
Philippe: speaking here in two
Shubh: weeks. Yeah. Sorry. Keep going.
Guest3: And, uh. Yeah. So the, I think the, the point is there needs to be an onboarding system to Canada.
Like I didn't understand how important it was. And, uh, forensic meet you, you can just open another credit card and only pay Netflix with it so that you have like more lines [00:52:00] of trade as they refer to. You
Shubh: could, uh, you get a credit card and sponsor this podcast.
Guest3: So just little things that we could have done like immediately upon arrival.
Yeah. Opposed to like making things work in the way we're making them work. And realizing
April: Capital One has a card like that, that I find fascinating that they don't push more. It is like a prepaid card. My nanny was just telling me about this, this week where you can like prepay 500 bucks on it, but it actually does go towards your credit rating.
And she just, same thing puts her credit, her um, cell phone bill on it every single month. And it comes off anyways right off there. But you're able to do that. But they should be targeting newcomers or people who have no credit rating whatsoever. Honestly. What a great way to build it
Shubh: up. The, the credit rating in general is a fun thing 'cause it's an artificial construct.
Like it's just two companies that. Look at your financial data and they're like, nah, 700. Right? So, uh, I'm down for this. I like this idea a ton.
Tate: Yeah. 75 on the salsa chart. Whoa. Right.
April: Woo.
Tate: Is that what it is?
Shubh: Yeah. But now you're gonna, you're just handing out.
Tate: They're not my [00:53:00] points. I'm just handing 'em out.
Shubh: Okay. Well, I guess,
April: can I just say that the only two women that pitched both got 70 fives? So
Shubh: I mean, from, from Tate?
April: From Tate, yeah.
Shubh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, I really do actually quite like this idea and this concept, um, I'm gonna say 65 Celsius. That's a very high score
April: for me. Do you give everyone a 65?
Shubh: Uh, just all women.
Philippe: Just women. Just
April: women.
Shubh: You see what I give the men,
Philippe: uh, we, someone should actually build an app that tracks. All of the SALSA scores that we've given. Ideas, yes. Over time. So, looking at you guys up here. Yeah. Yeah. You guys wanna build that? Actually, it's probably kinda like a, you know, like, uh, Dave Portnoy's pizza scores, you know, you could have SALSA scores.
I'm,
Tate: I'm gonna give some advice right now. Do not build that, that is going to go nowhere.
Philippe: Yeah. I,
Shubh: I mean, you would have two customers though,
Philippe: at least. Yeah, we would love that shit.
Shubh: Well, we might share
Philippe: an account, actually, you see some of the [00:54:00] stuff that, that people build at the hackathons, it's like, no one's ever gonna do that.
You might as well build our CD at something. But like,
Shubh: I think Shy is probably just building this for us on this phone right now.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: All right. What'd you give it?
Philippe: Uh uh, um, um, sorry, this is just like a credit score for newcomers to Canada.
Shubh: It's a global, were you fucking listening? It's a global credit score.
Philippe: Uh, I wasn't listening. Were you listening? It's
Shubh: the democratization of a global credit.
Philippe: I mean, I think like, I think that's a, oh, that was good. Incredible idea. I might join you. I I might go a little shy. I might, I might go to 70 just to protect the integrity of the score, but I think it's a really great idea.
Um, I, uh, uh, like credit scores are really just like monkeys type in typing on computers. It doesn't really make sense to me. Uh, um, sponsors
Shubh: Equifax.
Philippe: Uh, yeah. And, and so a global credit score, I would just be, I would just be concerned about like, what happens when that does become a global system? And like you're saying, [00:55:00] because everyone weights it differently, what are the weights and does that start to, uh, become, have some inequity involved because Yeah, how
April: do we find a metric that doesn't have.
Bias in it as well.
Philippe: Totally. Exactly. And does it skew and does it way, so, so a lot of really interesting things to consider there, but, uh, it would be fascinating.
Shubh: Yeah, I like also like the idea of a, a credit card that is very like automatically paid off for people to be build a credit Uhhuh payroll secured credit card.
Uh, any other, uh, pitches out there?
Philippe: No, I think that's,
Shubh: oh no, sorry. Uh, that, uh, that's all the time we have says Philip. Wait, sorry
Philippe: Joe,
April: we got someone
Philippe: waving our arms. Joe Philly. We're gonna take Joe's pitch. He's gonna make fun of us.
Shubh: Yeah, he's gonna do an hour and a half. Uh,
Philippe: last pitch, last bit. Are you guys okay?
Are you guys, uh, uh, you guys wanna hear one more? Yeah.
April: He's got one little thing to share.
Shubh: Yeah, Phil, they're at the, the streets are begging us to keep going.
Joe: Okay. No, it'll be quick. Uh,
Shubh: it definitely won't be quick.
Joe: Alright. So[00:56:00]
what's really interesting is there's a big problem. In Tasmania with Apple production throughput. And what it's really based upon is it's a very distracting job because you need to be focused looking up. But when you hear the cries, so we have a product, it's called the triple Be. So it's the bald baby bird ejector and what it does, okay?
You know like an iPad, right? With a spring. So you line these all under the trees because the worst is your hand is full of apples and you want, you see this bird crying. What are you going to do? I don't know, Joe, what am I gonna do? You don't have to do anything because you've lined the floor with the Triple B.
Not only do [00:57:00] you not need tissues, you eject the bird.
Shubh: Tiny birds. Are they tiny,
Joe: bald baby?
Shubh: Are they tiny
Joe: birds from Tasmania back into the nest. So what happens for your sidekick here? He can just rub his mustache and continue with the apple production.
April: That's it. Okay.
Okay. I think that's a 75. That's a 75. That
Philippe: is 75. That is so good. That is so specific. That's a 75. So I would've used that. I would've used that one time. So I would've been perfect.
Tate: One life saved.
Philippe: That's right. That's right. You got a
Shubh: lot of apples, uh, that actually brought apples and birds back together for the final pitch.
Philippe: Yeah, really That was very seinfeldian of how we
Shubh: pulled together all the pitches. Well done. Joseph. Are we done? You're done.
Philippe: Yeah. We're
Shubh: we have to done, because we had two people that were. No, we're just saying no.
Philippe: Yeah, we're dead. You guys can pitch this afterwards. Or if
Shubh: it's good enough. I mean, I would've [00:58:00] said yes.
I just wanted, I wanted the record. I wanted the record. I'm a
Philippe: bad guy. I would've given you a bad score anyway.
Shubh: Uh, well, tech Thursday is telling us it's time to wrap.
Philippe: Boo.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, thanks everybody for coming out. Thanks. Uh, in particular Tate and April for, uh, joining us and being, um, excellent. Thanks for everybody who pitched in the audience for being good sports.
Sorry about Phil and, uh, yeah, please, uh, follow, listen, subscribe to the podcast. Come out to other Tech Thursday events. How many people here said this was their First Tech Thursday event? You'll be back. Many of them are informative. There was one about data centers.
Philippe: There's one about data centers.
Shubh: Everybody needs to know about data centers right now. They're very hot. Uh,
Philippe: it was a, it was a manel and, uh, which means that it was all men. There's a lot of
Shubh: dudes.
April: Yeah. And then he got an angry text from me
Philippe: and, and Gonzalo's wife. Yeah. Yeah. He took me for a lunch and then he went, my wife said, you need more women on your panels.
April: I, I told him that [00:59:00] I'm gonna continue texting him every time I see a white man panel until he won't do it anymore. April in favor. April. April. I good in of getting a text from me. April.
Philippe: April. I'm good. April I'm good, right?
April: You're good.
Philippe: Yeah. It was, uh, she said this, by the way, in all texts at like, like, like right before I was about to fall asleep.
It was really, I did. It was like too late. Yeah.
Shubh: Um, fever Dreams on that note. Yes. Come back, uh, follow the podcast. Uh, listen to the podcast. Come back out to Tech Thursday event. They are genuinely great. What, uh, Philippe has built with tech Thursday is actually great. What Angelica's helping build now is, is great.
Uh, come out to the events. You'll learn some shit. Uh, for all you people who aren't in this ecosystem. You'll find out some stuff and you'll be like, ah, fuck, maybe I can build something cool. And then pitch it on the podcast. Uh, thanks everybody again. Oh wait, Shai. Yep. Do you want the results? Oh yeah, sorry.
HAIs got the results. Okay,
Shy: so Sha out 11 Squarer pitches. Average is six. 3.2 is we 67,
Shubh: man.
Philippe: 63.2. Yep.
Shubh: Yep.
Shy: It [01:00:00] was Max still.
Shubh: Yeah. I don't think they've, yeah. Yeah. And then
Philippe: Pip. Pip, wow.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: What, what AI is, this
Shubh: is shy.
Better
Shubh: be, this is why Shy and I are starting a thing together. Yeah.
Philippe: 59 your average. That's my average media is 65 because, okay.
Shubh: Max 75.
Philippe: Oh for the
Shubh: bro, you know what, this is incredible. This might be, uh, artificially representing our scores. 'cause sometimes we refuse to rate a really bad pitch 'cause we're, we're gonna give it zero.
Philippe: Yeah, I've given a zero as well before. So
Shubh: yeah, that's, so if you could just retrain the AI to get, uh, zero is a no buddy.
That would be,
Philippe: I'm kind of the Simon Cowell of the show, you know.
Shubh: Thanks. Hey guys,
April: you are not,
Shubh: because you wear tight shirts,
Philippe: I don't as well, but
Shubh: yeah, he doesn't, uh, guys, you know who you should talk to about doing stuff with ai. My friend's s shy. Look at how quickly you put that together. Huh? Shout. Give, [01:01:00] give him a round of applause.
Uh, okay everyone, thank you. You're allowed to go now? No, you can stay.
Philippe: Yeah. You guys are welcome to stay the bar's open. Thank you guys so much for coming and uh, yeah, stick around. Uh, you because you guys don't want to go out there. So come pitch, come ask me about that bird video I have. That is real. And uh, yeah.
Thank you guys so much.