YBIOTL Episode 21 Publish
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Shubh: [00:00:00] Hello everyone. Welcome to episode 21 of Your Business is On the Line. I am here today with co-host, Philippe Burns, of Tech Thursday.
Philippe: What up?
Shubh: Producer Chaz. For those of you who've been listening- Hey ... lately, he's been quite busy. We have him on the mic, on the program today. We-
Philippe: The man's back.
Shubh: We adjusted the time of this recording just so he could join us once Kelly Schmidt came on and said, "Where's Chaz?"
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We realized that, that Chaz is maybe getting more popular than I would like.
Philippe: Man, Chaz, I feel like I haven't, like, actually... Like, you've jumped on some of these calls, but we haven't-
Shubh: Wait, wait, before you guys g- do your thing.
Philippe: Never mind.
Shubh: Your Business is On the Line, [00:01:00] Canada's number one business comedy podcast.
You can find us at ybiotl.ca on- Ooh ... some other platforms. This is the podcast where, uh, serious people come on and pitch unserious business ideas. What do you think of that new catchphrase? I just made that up on the spot.
Chaz: That's great. That's pretty good.
Shubh: Serious
Chaz: people. In my case, though, it's an unserious person.
Wait.
Shubh: Yeah, you just- Yeah,
Chaz: unserious person-
Shubh: You're just unserious across the board ... with a serious idea. Um- Yeah. We have not done an episode, the three of us, since episode two, which a lot of people- Whoa ... a lot of people say is our best episode.
Philippe: Whoa.
Shubh: Now nobody says that. Now nobody says that. I'm just trying to...
That's called... Guys, if- That's called, like, a hype in this episode up so people- We- ... don't switch off when they're like, "There's no guest this week," click.
Philippe: We did one, though.
Shubh: No, that's right, we did one episode- Yeah ... five. Yeah, you're right.
Philippe: Episode five, uh- Which- How I observed- ...
Shubh: a lot of people did say was one of our funniest episodes
Philippe: 100%.
The- The AquaDesk? ... AquaDesk. Ooh. Chaz, you pitched the
Shubh: AquaDesk. Oh, the AquaDesk. Yeah, true. One of my [00:02:00] favorite
Chaz: all time- Shout out AquaDesk ... ideas.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Sha- Shai Ronama, my business partner, co-founder at Aware, uh, you know, we don't have to plug that right now, do we? Smart- Like, why do we- Smartest
Philippe: guy I know
Shubh: feels like we gotta keep plugging your thing. It's Shai,
Philippe: the smartest guy you know? '
Shubh: Cause we have to say Tech Thursday 40 times an episode. Um- Uh, uh, Shai came on last week, pitched the WalkwaDesk.
Philippe: That's- No ... no way that's what he called it. That's
Shubh: what I called it. Yeah. That's what the show notes say.
Philippe: Really?
The WalkwaDesk? Yeah. I thought it was the Walking Desk.
Shubh: Well, it was the WalkDesk, but then, you know, we were building on Chaz's idea. The Walk- ... WalkwaDesk sounded way better. We're trying to build
Chaz: an empire here.
Shubh: Um, Chaz, you said you, uh, you got a little news. You got a little update for us. Uh-
Chaz: Oh, yeah ...
Shubh: what's happening?
Chaz: Well, Tate doesn't know yet, so hopefully he doesn't listen to this show, but- He doesn't ... I'm coming to visit for Stampede. Boom. I'll be in Calgary. That's huge. Me and Hayden. Yeah.
Shubh: When do you... When? [00:03:00] Live show.
Chaz: Uh, I don't, we haven't booked the flights yet, but like around the 8th or 9th.
Shubh: Okay, second week. Uh, Ju-
Chaz: Yeah, July.
Yeah, whenever Stampede is.
Shubh: Oh my God. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Philippe: Not doing a live show. I refuse. Not that week.
Shubh: We are doing a live
Chaz: show.
Shubh: No, we- We are doing an outdoor live show at Stampede.
Chaz: We already booked the rodeo or whatever it is. Oh. We're doing it on top of bulls.
Philippe: You're doing it on top of wild bull riding.
Shubh: Like, uh- We ... Yep. I was gonna say something else I couldn't remember for a lot of talk about. That's very exciting. Very exciting. We tried to get you out here for the live show, but you couldn't, couldn't get you out.
Chaz: Yeah, no, had to get my bread up, but now I'm rich again.
Philippe: Hey. My man's out here painting, right?
Shubh: Yeah. Chaz- Yeah ... Chazlyn got a real job because, uh, apparently we weren't paying him anything. Uh, no. And now he's a fucking highfalutin, uh, fella.
Chaz: Yeah, highfalutin fella.
Philippe: How's the gig? [00:04:00]
Chaz: It's good. I'm liking it. Yeah? Nice working with my hands and not pretending to be a tech guy. You got
Shubh: a welcome to Canada's, uh, number one dentist comedy podcast-
featuring tech entrepreneurs.
Philippe: And a painter.
Shubh: And a painter. Hey. Yeah. You're working with your hands. When are you gonna ... Hey, we, uh, hopefully your painting company doesn't hear this, but, uh, when are you gonna spin off your own, your own outfit? You know? No. A little, a little self-started.
Chaz: I'm, I'm already getting started on that.
Shubh: Can we take a- Yeah, I'm not talking- Can we take a, can we take a minute to talk about what Chaz should name his painting company, Philippe?
Chaz: That's a good idea.
Philippe: That is a good i- ... Well, before we get into that, I was curious if you have developed your favorite Pantone yet? Favorite color paint.
Chaz: No, but that's, that's, I'm on the algorithm now.
My Instagram algorithm is just filled with people cutting and rolling rooms, and then other people mixing paint colors, and I love it all.
Philippe: Damn. All of it. Okay. I've-
Shubh: Yeah ... I've never, I mean, I'm ... This is gonna sound like a [00:05:00] bit. I d- but it's not. I've never seen you more passionate about something you had to work on-
than you are right now about
Chaz: paint. Well, yeah.
Shubh: Including this podcast. No, it's true. Yeah. Um-
Chaz: It's, it's true ...
Shubh: uh, okay. Pantone is such a great word too. What would, uh, Chaz call his painting company?
Chaz: I'm thinking like some type of Simpsons reference maybe.
Philippe: Oh, really? A
Shubh: Simpsons re- reference. Uh, something with the wordplay on the name. Uh, Sum- Summertime?
Philippe: Oh, that's pretty good. That's good. That's really good. I, I mean, I always think it- Yeah ... uh, you could get some pretty sick swag I feel like going for your painting company.
Shubh: Oh, God. Yeah.
Philippe: I would buy your painting company swag in a heartbeat.
Shubh: Yeah. Well, you wouldn't buy it- Yeah ... 'cause he would send us a couple, right?
Chaz: No, I'd charge you full price.
Philippe: I'm
Chaz: trying to make a living out of your shop now. I'm not just a freaking- Marketing associate anymore? Well, let me shout out my current company before we start thinking of ideas.
Yeah. The, the company that I'm [00:06:00] working for right now is called Silver Tuna.
Shubh: Oh,
Chaz: that's pretty good. Are you guys familiar with the reference?
Shubh: I'm not, but I like the name.
Chaz: So I didn't know for the longest time either, and then somebody just asked the other day what it was from, and it's actually, uh, the Silver Tuna is what they call...
what the Wet Bandits call the big house in Home Alone. Is it the big house? That's what they're going after, the Silver Tuna.
Shubh: Oh,
Chaz: no way.
Shubh: That's unbelievable.
Chaz: Yeah, yeah. But so shout out Silver Tuna.
Shubh: Oh, they've got a great name.
Chaz: They're sick.
Shubh: Say,
Chaz: hey- Oh, you should see their merch.
Shubh: You
Chaz: said
Shubh: you-
Chaz: Is it dope? You should see the decals.
Shubh: You said you're not a marketing associate- Yeah, the merch is sick ... but you're marketing for them right now. If, uh, all those- Yeah, that's
Chaz: true ...
Shubh: all those folks in Southern Ontario, uh, ring up Silver Tuna for your paint- Yeah ... your painting, residential and commercial or just residential?
Chaz: Just residential. It's paint and restoration, so there's a lot of old houses in Stratford that they'll-
Shubh: Let me-
they'll be also- Let me, let me hit them with the free ad plug. Uh, if you're- Hey ... in the, uh, Golden Horseshoe- ... [00:07:00] and you are in need of a restoration and residential painting services, contact Silver Tuna at silvertuna. something.
Chaz: Sure.
Philippe: It's pretty good.
Shubh: Yeah, that was good. Yeah,
Chaz: that was pretty good.
Philippe: That's really good.
That was
Chaz: good.
Shubh: Uh, are you at home alone?
Philippe: I don't know. Do you have two painters to keep you company?
Shubh: Yeah, after hearing the name of the or- I stay overall. After hearing the name and the origin story, I don't think you should spin your own thing off it. How
Philippe: much is a painter per hour?
Shubh: Yeah. How much is, how much- Like
to paint?
Chaz: Well, this, like, the stuff we're doing is, like, pretty high-end stuff. I don't really know exactly, but I know it's, it's-
Shubh: Wait ...
Chaz: pretty expensive.
Shubh: I don't love how you said that, like it wouldn't be applicable to
Philippe: Philippe. This is not for you. What, what do you mean?
Chaz: Like, how much
Shubh: would I- Yeah, I... Oh, guys, uh, I would give you the price, but, you know.
Philippe: Oh, I'm just trying to figure out, like- Well- ... some sort of, like, arbitrage where, like, if someone else to entertain me for an hour is, like, $100 and- Right ... but it only would cost me to go [00:08:00] through Silver Tuna to get a, a, a, a painter to hang out with me- Right ... for, like, $15 an hour,
like-
Shubh: You're looking at Only Friends, but f- but using the painter.
Philippe: Exactly, yeah. If I ha- if I was home alone- ... I was like, "Maybe I'll just go chat with a painter, talk about colors or something." Yeah. Like, how much would that run me? Yeah. Like, you know, no paint involved. It cannot
Shubh: be more than 50 bucks an hour.
Philippe: Like, that's kind of a good deal.
Chaz: It's... Well, I don't know.
Shubh: Can you come over and do- I'll have to ask
an hour of painting? Maybe even, like, a little consultation.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Hey, you know what? I- I'm willing to pay for the one-hour consultation to come over and talk about Pantones. But really, you're just- Mm ... you're just chatting about Pantones. You've got no intent to, to actually paint.
Philippe: Come over for an hour and I'm gonna talk to you about my problems.
Way cheaper than therapy. Only, only rule is you can't-
Shubh: Oh my God ...
Philippe: talk about your- You
Shubh: just come up with a business
Philippe: idea? Yeah. That might be it.
Shubh: Painter who's also a therapist.
Philippe: Yeah. J- or just like- Yeah, art brush.
Shubh: Thera- paint.
Philippe: Thera-paint is great. [00:09:00] Yeah.
Shubh: Okay. Well, that's what you should call your company, Thera-Paint.
Chaz, you're a great listener, right? You go and you're painting- ... and then people could just follow you around and be like, "Chaz, um, you know, I need some advice." And you'd be like, "Hit me." And you'd be like, "Uh, you know, I don't even know what they would ask for advice about."
Chaz: Yeah.
Philippe: I would love
Chaz: to interview
Philippe: you, though.
Shubh: Yeah, that might work. Yeah.
Chaz: That could work.
Shubh: Okay. I don't know. Well, with, we already got a pitch, so that's the whole episode, I guess.
Chaz: True. All right.
Shubh: Thanks everybody. That was, uh, all the time we have.
Chaz: Shubh's got a hard out Te-
Shubh: I got a hard out. I, I'm coaching so much soccer right now. So, uh-
Chaz: How, how the team looking?
Philippe: Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask.
Shubh: Uh, I got two teams. First team, younger team hasn't played. Older team, uh, first game was a little tough, but, uh, it was, it was the, um... I'm gonna... It was five-nil, but it was not a five-nil game. Wow. We just, everything they shot... We had one goal that bounced off two of our players, then the ball started spinning sideways and [00:10:00] spun around the goalie into the net.
We had a lot of- Wow ... there was a bit of bad luck there.
Philippe: Oh, I see.
Shubh: So, you know, we'll be better. We'll be better next Sunday.
Philippe: Okay.
Shubh: We better be better next Sunday. I know,
Philippe: I know. You 12
Shubh: stars. West Hills United.
Philippe: You're gonna make 'em do, uh, suicide?
Shubh: Tonight's practice ain't nothing but lines.
Philippe: Really?
Shubh: No. No.
Philippe: No, no, no.
Shubh: Well,
Chaz: if you wanna win.
Philippe: I- that's right. If you wanna win, you gotta whip 'em into shape.
Shubh: Yeah. We're gonna push those- Yeah ... kids so hard, at some point they'll need a, a
Philippe: thera-paint. That's right. Full life cycle- Yeah ... of marketing- That's right ... business.
Shubh: If you mess people up and they need therapy later, and
Chaz: you're running a therapy business, pretty smart.
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Shubh: Uh, okay. Yeah, we [00:13:00] texted, uh, about doing this show, the three of us. Then about an hour ago, I get a text from, uh, Philip going, "We actually doing this?" But it was your idea to start with. Yeah,
Philippe: it was my
Shubh: idea. And then you said- I'm joking
and then you said, "I got no ideas." And then Chaz- ... Chaz is like, "I got a couple ideas." My idea was to pitch- Yeah, yeah ... an, an... You know, when The, The Simpsons would do, like, their anthology shows, episodes once in a while? They would just, like, clip- Yeah ... previous episodes, so there'd only be, like, four minutes of actual new content.
So my idea was like, "Let's talk about all the previous pitches. Which one was your favorite? Do, like, an award show." But, uh- Mm.
Chaz: No.
Shubh: But
Chaz: those are the worst episodes of The Simpsons.
Philippe: Yeah. Man.
Shubh: So yeah. Listen, brother, we are off to a good start in terms of launching our worst episode, so we may as well just ride-
ride that
Philippe: train. That's like when, uh, Seinfeld's-
Shubh: Yeah, their final, the finale.
Philippe: No, uh, but they released one, like, I feel like a season before the finale that was, like, their 100th episode, and it was just, like, short moments, and that was just horrible.
Shubh: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Philippe: I don't know if you know that one, but-
Shubh: 1997.
Yep.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Was [00:14:00] it 1997?
Chaz: March
Philippe: 4th. Goat Year.
Shubh: Okay, Chaz, you got an idea you want to pitch us. You said you got a couple.
Chaz: I got a couple. There's, two of them are... Well, the one's not a business idea at all, but I th- I don't, actually don't even know if it's worth pitching, but it's just something I thought of that could be a good idea, um- Hit me with
Philippe: that
Shubh: one first Oh, wow
with a, with a lead-in like that. Yeah, we're gonna need to hear that. Well, the, the- This- ... the Spotify audience counter just went mwah.
Chaz: Yeah. Well, the second idea-
Shubh: Yep ...
Chaz: is- What I thought was a great idea until it was actually debunked the other day. We'll get to that later. And then the third idea is pr- I'm pretty sure it's a home run.
Um, we're gonna have to flush out some stuff together, um, but the third idea is really good, especially if you like waffles. Wow.
Shubh: Well, I like waffles. Yeah. Okay, let's go. Yeah. Okay, hit us with the first one that's apparently not that good and not that well developed. The first,
Chaz: the, the really bad idea. So what happened was I was at, uh, [00:15:00] a hockey game recently.
Shubh: A professional
Chaz: hockey game? Kingston Rangers.
Shubh: Oh, uh, okay.
Chaz: Now OHL.
Shubh: Gotcha.
Chaz: Okay. It's OHL playoffs right now, and I'm only 40 minutes from the Aud, the greatest arena on Earth.
Shubh: Okay.
Chaz: Okay. Uh, so we went and caught a game, and it's playoffs, so things got pretty rowdy-
Shubh: Yep ...
Chaz: uh, to the point where there was, like, a fight, but the ref that was trying to break it up just, like, couldn't do anything about it to the point where he kind of was getting beat up a little bit.
Philippe: No way. And,
Chaz: and, yeah. Yeah. And, like, he was on the ground, like, wrestling these two guys, and they were, like, on top of the ref. And it was mayhem 'cause there's 10 players and only four refs, and, and things were just getting out of hand. And normally I don't really take the refs' side, and I know that having more than four refs on the ice at a time would just be crazy.
Oh,
Shubh: I think where, where this
Chaz: is going. But my idea was like, why don't they have rent-a-refs for the playoffs that are off the ice-
Shubh: [00:16:00] Yep ...
Chaz: during the actual game. Yep. And then as soon as there's a scrum, they just send six more refs out there so it's fair. Oh, you hit the
Shubh: button. One
Chaz: v. one.
Shubh: You
Chaz: hit the button.
There's 10 refs, 10 players. Let's go.
Shubh: It's like a bench clearing brawl. And then you just clean up the scrum. This is an incredible idea. This is like... Chaz, I know you're a wrestling fan. You know, I, I don't know if they still do this, but the Royal Rumble, every two minutes a new wrestler comes out, right?
Yeah. Like, this is that- Yeah ... just without the time. I think this is-
Philippe: This is a brilliant idea. I do have a question about the O though to con- before we continue.
Chaz: Yeah,
Philippe: yeah. Sure. The OHL. I got a friend. She's da- Is
Shubh: this, uh, is this, uh, uh, safe for work? Am I gonna have to put in a bunch of bleeps?
Philippe: No, I, well, I think- Yeah.
I mean, we'll see, but yeah. Um, but I got a friend who, uh, she started dating this guy last year who, uh, plays in the... Or, or this year, sorry, who plays in the E, like the ECU. ECHL. ECHL.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Mm-hmm. She posted on Instagram this photo. And like, if she ever hears this, I mean- Yeah ... just me making fun of her. But, [00:17:00] um, the caption was like, "WAGs," like wives and girlfriends.
Yes. Right. Yes. And her and all of the wives had, and girlfriends, uh, had sh- jackets on th- with their- Mm-hmm ... boyfriend or husbands'-
Shubh: Yeah ...
Philippe: numbers on it. Like, what league is that acceptable? And- It's, yes, ECHL ... I would argue ECHL is not acceptable.
Shubh: They do it. Yeah, they definitely do in the NHL.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: AHL. So for, for the listeners who are maybe not, uh, sports- Like
Philippe: AHL is like maybe,
Shubh: right?
You know, in North American hockey you've got the NHL, which is, uh, w- folks are generally familiar with, the AHL- Mm-hmm ... which is the most NHL teams have a farm team in the AHL. The ECHL is one layer below the AHL in terms of pro hockey. Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah, like your third league down basically.
Philippe: And w- the O, isn't the O and the ECHL the same?
Uh, no.
Shubh: The OHL is junior hockey. Oh, okay. So that's pre- Yes ... uh, graduation to a professional hockey, even though it is by definition professional hockey, 'cause they get paid a little bit of money to play. Um, [00:18:00] so the, good question. I don't think
Chaz: we're supposed to say that publicly.
Shubh: They do. No, no, the OHL, they, they're- But the...
What was the thing? Shub's idea. Well, no, well- You, you took us on this side- I,
Philippe: what about the- I'm- Are you allowed to do that in the, in the ECHL?
Chaz: Well, I'm actually glad you brought that up, Philip, because I just learned the term WAGs. Yeah. I didn't know what that was. It's like an English soccer term. And I've been seeing it kind of, I've been seeing it, like, kind of all over the place lately.
And, um, Peyton and I were actually talking about this, and I would go as far as to say that if it's not professional hockey, you shouldn't even be able to use the term WAGs because - I agree ... we had a friend that was talking about a junior team, like not even OHL, like a junior- Yeah, that would- ... B or even junior C team- No, just B team
and the WAGs were there and it k- Yeah, but it can,
Shubh: it's not, it's not WAGs in that scenario. It's just goods. It's
Philippe: goods.
Chaz: That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. That's a very good
Shubh: point. Seventeen and 18-year-old kids shouldn't be married.
Philippe: That's true.
Chaz: No, you're right. You're right.
Philippe: That's [00:19:00] true. Um- But, yeah, I mean, but, but then, but technically ECHL is professional.
But
Chaz: listen-
Shubh: Yeah ... here, I, but- It's very
Chaz: good
Shubh: hockey I'm, I'm gonna take a counterargument to you guys. Okay. I think if you have people in your life that are willing to support you in whatever it is that you're doing, and they're willing to, to, to wear your logos and colors, like I think if people and friends and family of ours started walking around with, uh, YBIOTL swag-
I'd feel great about it.
Philippe: Yeah.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: And we're not a, we're not a big- But that's a little different ... we're not a big league podcast.
Philippe: Well, is, is-
Shubh: We're the ECHL of podcasts ...
Philippe: is, is Rita, is Rita gonna start calling herself a w- the WAG? She'll
Shubh: just be a W- WAG
Chaz: of the show.
Shubh: She'll just be, she, she- We got,
Philippe: oh, we
Shubh: got Chaz's girlfriend
well, Chaz is gonna- Yeah, so we got WAG Uh, yeah.
Philippe: It was and-
Shubh: Really? We got wife, wife and- Wife and boyfriend ... wife and girlfriend.
Philippe: Yeah.
Chaz: Yeah, we got a WAG.
Philippe: And, and and, and- Silence.
Shubh: Yeah, and pro- uh, you know, uh, prospect. Pers- prospect. And, [00:20:00]
Chaz: and Philippe's Tinder dates. What do you call
Shubh: that? WAG, um, W- WAG, uh, you know, future-
Philippe: I'm gonna add that to my Hinge profile as like, "Do you wanna be a, a WAG of your visit
Shubh: on the line wide-" And it's not my business
wide- This is a comedy podcast. Okay, back to Chaz. Can I take it back to Chaz's idea? Would you like to pontificate more about this?
Philippe: I, I kinda disagree, I think, but, uh, uh, I, I disagree that you- I, it's okay ... that you're allowed to. If you disagree, I
Shubh: still respect you.
Philippe: Yeah. It
Chaz: feels pretentious.
Philippe: It does feel pre- it,
Shubh: and- Oh, my gosh
I disagree ... Philippe thinks it's pretentious.
Chaz: I, I read that in one, be the one to say it, but-
Shubh: Well, maybe I need to rethink my strategy. Okay, first of all- I, I- ... I love this, uh, emergency, uh, p- break glass. In case of emergency, I need more referees. I think it applies to- Yeah ... many sports. It applies to hockey, unquestionably.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Uh, I think, uh, occasionally in basketball, right? Like, there's a little scrum, and, uh- Yeah ... and nobody- Yeah ... they've got security come in and try to break it up. I think, like, some really burly refs, 'cause basketball refs are always so much smaller than the players. Yeah. Uh, [00:21:00] uh, yep, I love it. What would you call
Chaz: it?
Rent-a-Ref or something. I don't know. That was the first thing that came to mind. I didn't really put much thought into it.
Shubh: I think it's like a, it's more like a flex or r- reflex, because r- reflex- Yeah ... because you have to flex up the number of referees you have.
Chaz: Yes.
Philippe: I was thinking it's more like a gang.
You know, it's more like a mafia, like- How do- ... like the Ref Mafia.
Shubh: Yeah, 'cause you're not renting them. You're kinda hiring. It's like hired goons- Yeah ... but the opposite.
Philippe: Exactly, like, like- True, true ... the idea. Yeah. The, the i- well, I mean, maybe it's called the Enforcers.
Shubh: Mm. Oh.
Philippe: Mm-hmm. You know?
Shubh: Mm-hmm.
Philippe: Or are there some famous gangs?
You know, the, the, the q- uh, the, the gang name is- Other name is- ...
Shubh: the Enforcers ... other name is Refereeing Gangs?
Philippe: Um, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Shubh: Stripes, something about Stripes. I don't have it. Uh, I love this idea- ... but I love this idea so much, because I also think, like, the, the process to become one of these, uh, 'cause you're not talking about, you know, [00:22:00] in the playoffs, they always have a referee who's available in case one of the other referees gets hurt, right?
Mm-hmm. And those p- guys come out. We're not talking about that. We're talking about, like- No ... a gang of... I like, I'm, I'm buying in on this term, a gang of refs.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: But, like, not really- Like,
Chaz: don't even-
Shubh: They're not referees ... they
Chaz: don't even-
Shubh: They don't know the rules No,
Chaz: they don't have to be trained referees at all.
They literally just, like the bigger the better type thing-
Shubh: It's like bouncers- Bouncers ... bouncers, bouncers on skates.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Oh my God, that's it. Yeah. Bouncers on skates. Or like
Philippe: bouncers on ice?
Shubh: Yeah, bouncers on ice. Ice bouncers. Ice bouncers. Yeah. Bouncers on ice is brilliant. So you just- Yeah ... the ref is like, "This is getting out of control."
1987- Yeah ... Canada, Russia World Junior Championship, uh, the entire teams got into a brawl. The refs could do nothing. They turned the lights off in the place to, in the hope that- Yeah ... the players would, would, uh, would stop. They did not. Both teams kicked out of the tournament. They needed ice bouncers.
Philippe: Yeah.
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: Uh, Chaz, I, you know, I don't know if it's your, just your, your newfound, uh, [00:23:00] professional optimism that's maybe unlocked a part of your brain- ... to like just really come up with a great idea. You said this is not a good idea.
Philippe: Yes.
Chaz: This is my worst idea, guys. This is
Shubh: where you're starting. It's gonna be amazing.
This is my worst idea. But this is also like an incredibly easy idea to implement. Yeah. We could actually do this. We could do it. I
Chaz: mean, we couldn't do it. We could, we could contract our own ice bouncers.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Chaz has got... You could get a couple buddies together. Fellas from, from the o- Line up somebody
fellas from Silver Tuna probably need something little- Oh,
Philippe: yeah ... little
Shubh: bit extra. Yeah ... fellas
Philippe: from Stratford.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: You got some friends who just came out of the clinker.
Shubh: I think it's called the, the- Clinker ... is it the clinker? Yeah. You know, they come out of the clinker. Come out of the clinker. The clinker where you put the coins in in the bus when you walk by, the clinker.
Uh, uh, Philippe, what do you got for, uh, for ice- Who's going? ... for bouncers on ice? Well- Oh, sorry, go ahead. Did you have more?
Chaz: No, I was just gonna say this isn't really a business idea, so we don't have to-
Shubh: I think you're insane. Yeah. I think it's absolutely business [00:24:00] idea. Have you ever heard about friends who play beer league hockey and things just come completely unhinged?
True.
Philippe: Do you think,
Chaz: do
Philippe: you think, uh, referees in the NHL, do you think their wives and girlfriends have a group chat called WAGs? Referee WAGs.
Chaz: They wear, they wear denim jackets with
Shubh: stripes on them. I, I think if, I think if you are a man or woman who is, uh, in a relationship with a professional sports umpire, referee, you do your level best to remain anonymous because-
I don't know if you guys have ever been on social media before when there's a, a controversial call of any kind, uh, it gets a little, uh,
Philippe: it gets a little- The comment sections gets out of the hand?
Shubh: Gets a little
Chaz: ugly. Okay,
Philippe: we've gotten- Just you shove, just you shove Islamic. I bet your wife is ugly. I'm very, I'm
Shubh: very respectful
Philippe: towards
Shubh: referees of all ages.
All
Philippe: right. Unless
Shubh: they're wrong.
Chaz: We need to hire some ice bouncers for the soccer games this summer- That's right ... in case they need
Shubh: it. Uh, Chuck, I [00:25:00] told you the story about Chuck coming to break something up, but I thought he was breaking something up, but he was about to do the opposite. Yeah. That is the one problem.
What if these ice bouncers come out? You gotta vet these fellas, 'cause what if they come out, they're like, "This is my chance." Here's my chance to get noticed, and they just pull a player out of the pile and start ragdolling him.
Philippe: Oh.
Shubh: So we need, we need a little bit of security, s- screening, screening- Sure ... up front.
Uh, okay. That
Philippe: gives a good idea. I think it's about maybe a, a 42, Salsa-
Shubh: Yeah ...
Philippe: to be honest.
Shubh: I'm gonna go, uh- I'll take that ... this is a little raw for me because all of my sports teams got eliminated in the last five days from the playoffs. Oilers are out. Oh. Raptors are out. Uh- Wow ... Jays are having a tough start, so I don't really like talking about sports at all right now.
That being said- Sure ... I do like this idea. I'm gonna give it, uh, 39. Salsa's at a 75. All right. Wow. Uh, Doug Waite- You'll be higher than me ... this is Doug Waite, my favorite, uh, Weather of All Time, number 39.
Philippe: Okay. All right,
Chaz: Chaz.
Shubh: Well- Number two. This has turned into Chaz pitching. I just thought we were just chilling.
Okay, go again.
Chaz: I've been away for a bit, so I got [00:26:00] some ideas
Shubh: I want- You are, you're just like Jordan- Come on ... coming back with the Wizards, except you're good.
Philippe: But the numbers Jordan was putting up with
Shubh: the Wizards- Yeah, when he came back, incredible ...
Philippe: like, what, he was still going 30? He was averaging-
Shubh: He was-
45, I think. Oh, yeah. But, but couldn't jump. He wasn't the same.
Philippe: But still, averaging- Oh, wow ... 25 and 10. That's
Shubh: amazing. This is, Chaz is coming back like, uh, Gabriel Landeskog.
Chaz: Ooh.
Shubh: You know, a couple years out of the game, coming back.
Philippe: It's a little bit above- Yeah ... my head space.
Shubh: Uh, Colorado Avalanche player. I should have come up with a better one.
Chaz: No, it was pretty good. Well, I like the Michael Jordan one. It's like- Yeah ... I'm old and I'm washed up, but you still just give me the ball and get out of the way- You
Shubh: were,
Chaz: you- ... and I'll make something
Shubh: happen ... you were in the four or five. Yeah. And you've come back for a much worse franchise, honestly. So, you know.
Chaz: True. We- we haven't-
Shubh: This podcast is- ... won any titles ...
Chaz: like the Washington Wizards podcast.
Shubh: No, yeah, yeah. This podcast is the ECHL podcast. It's the Washington Wizards podcast.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, okay, number two. Okay.
Chaz: Pitch number two. Yeah. So as you guys know from the intro, I'm [00:27:00] painting now. Um-
Shubh: What a fabulous, like- It- Did you see how he wrapped that all together?
He's, he is locked- Yeah ... breathe. I'm not used to Chaz being this locked in, and it's kind of freaking me out. Well-
Philippe: The locked- Did you say locked in or geeked out, or is it what'd you say, Philippe?
Chaz: You're either, you're either geeked or you're locked in. And I'm locked in right now.
Philippe: Bang.
Chaz: Oh.
Philippe: I got my bread out, brother.
I'm,
Shubh: I'm gonna, I'm definitely gonna clip Phil going, "Bang."
Chaz: Bang. Put that on the soundboard.
Shubh: Mike Bri-
Chaz: Um, so anyways, uh, for those of you listening that are familiar with painting, there's, uh, you're usually either cutting something in, as in, like, doing the edges of whatever wall or ceiling you're doing, or you're rolling.
And so obviously for a roller, you just have a big long thing. That's, that's easy.
Shubh: Yep.
Chaz: Um, cutting can get a little tedious at times, especially- True ... if you're cutting ceilings. And so- What happens is you usually have to get up on a [00:28:00] ladder, and you kinda start cutting, and then what you have to every, let's call it five to six feet, you gotta get off the ladder and move the ladder a couple feet and then go back up.
Shubh: That sounds awful.
Chaz: And me being kinda new to the game, I'm not very fast going up and down the ladders. I'm kinda scared still, if we're being, if we're being vulnerable on the show.
Shubh: Yeah. Go to therapy.
Chaz: Um, but yeah. Um, but yeah. So what happens is you're ending up going up and down the ladder, moving it a couple feet at a time, and then, like, it's just, it's just kind of annoying.
So my idea is, I don't know if you guys are familiar- Whoa ... with a Segway.
Shubh: Yeah Yeah,
Chaz: a Segway. But-
Shubh: We're very familiar.
Chaz: So my idea essentially is a Segway ladder hybrid. What
Shubh: is a Segway? Okay, can you stop saying it Segway? It's pronounced, the word is pronounced Segway.
Chaz: Segway.
Shubh: Yeah. Segway, sorry. Segway is, uh-
the way- Yeah, yeah ... Se- Seg- Segway is the way- Well- ... the Actor's Guild likes things to be.
Chaz: I don't... Well- Oh. I don't care [00:29:00] if the Actor's Guild wants
Shubh: them to say it. That's, that's pretty good. A Segway. Okay, a Segway. Well,
Chaz: you're right, it is Segway. Segway, Segway. We
Shubh: can call this thing the Segway, though. Um- When they s- when they seg- Seg-
when they seg, we seg.
Chaz: Yeah. Something like that. I don't know. But d- are you guys, are you guys picturing what I'm pitching right now? Yeah. Yes. It's a ladder. It's
Shubh: a, it's a ladder. It's a Segway ladder. It's brilliant.
Chaz: Yeah, it's a really, it's a really tall Segway.
Shubh: It's really tall. It's, it's- Yeah, it's a, but it's a telescoping Segway, I would assume, yes?
Like, it, it gets- Yeah,
Chaz: it's because- ...
Shubh: you
Chaz: can adjust ...
Shubh: it
Chaz: needs to be adjustable, for sure, yeah. Um-
Shubh: You know who could've used this? Lamplighters in England.
Philippe: Uh, yeah,
Shubh: true. In the 1700s. Yeah.
Philippe: Well, that's a great other use case. Yes. My other use case was me when I was apple picking. Ooh. When I fell off my ladder first day apple picking-
'cause I like, I like went up, I was reaching, and whatever, and you always had to go back down to pick another apple. Like, this would've saved me so much time. Okay.
Chaz: Yeah. I- And the worst part about falling for Philippe apple picking is that he was all alone.
Shubh: [00:30:00] He fell- No one to help him ... and fell on a bed of apples.
No, the, we, we covered this last time, was in Tasmania.
Philippe: I was in Tasmania, yeah.
Shubh: A bunch of Tasmanian devils just running around.
Chaz: Oh, no.
Philippe: We actually had some tiger snakes on the farm. It was kinda scary. That is- Third most poisonous snakes
Shubh: ever Tiger Snakes is a great name for a product.
Philippe: Yeah. Like a- Tiger Snakes paint
like a painting company. Yeah.
Shubh: Oh, Tiger Snake painting is terrific.
Philippe: Yeah.
Chaz: That is kinda good.
Shubh: Oh my God. That is kinda good. And that, that swag would be like a little snake painting.
Philippe: Oh.
Chaz: Has, have, have either of you guys tried the Tasmanian devil impersonation yet on the show?
Shubh: Well, if you'd have listened to last week's, you would've heard me do one.
Chaz: Yeah, okay. I thought I did. I just wasn't sure. Yeah, it was like- I thought you guys re- re- grabbed it. Can you do- That's pretty good.
Shubh: Can you do a good one, Chaz?
Chaz: No,
Shubh: no,
Chaz: no. That was not that much better. I
Shubh: could do this all day, baby. I love cartoon character impressions. You guys wanna hear some other ones?
Chaz: One more.
Yeah.
Shubh: I'm Mickey Mouse. Can I, have I earned one more?
Chaz: No, that wasn't very good Save it for [00:31:00] next week.
Shubh: Oh, gosh, guys. They're goofy. You
Chaz: should've led with that one.
Shubh: He's back, baby. Uh, wait,
Chaz: but so-
Shubh: Segway ladder for painting. Love this idea so much.
Philippe: This is even a better idea. Yeah. But what debunked it? You said it was debunked.
Chaz: Yes. So- ... actually yesterday- Hold on.
Shubh: What's bunked? If debunked is proving something doesn't exist, what, what's bunking? Does bunking mean it's awesome?
Chaz: That's a good question.
Philippe: It's a good question. I don't know.
Shubh: All right. I don't know. Can we start just colloquially using the term bunked for when something is awesome?
Chaz: Wouldn't it, like-
Philippe: It's bunked.
Chaz: Uh-
Shubh: Yeah ...
Chaz: can you use it in a sentence?
Shubh: I wish this idea was bunked.
Philippe: No, I think it would be more like- ... "Oh, you were right. Oh, I just, I was just bunked." My
Shubh: cartoon character impressions are straight up bunked. Yeah. I don't
Philippe: know. My cartoon character
Chaz: impressions-
Shubh: I'm
Chaz: doing all the characters
are
Shubh: very bunked. Bunked? I'm
Chaz: Mickey Mouse. See- Isn't that slang for something that's bad, too, [00:32:00] is bunked?
Philippe: Yeah, like, uh- Oh ... bunk is bad, like... Oh, that's pretty bunk. Actually,
Shubh: I don't know. I don't know. Kids, you ever take kids, you go on vacation, there's bunk beds, they love it.
Philippe: Are you, are you doing- Do you say bunk
Chaz: beds?
Philippe: Are you doing bunk bed jokes? Business jokes? Are you doing the... Are you... Is this all to make up for the fact that I told that story about getting naked? You're just trying to make this podcast more family-friendly again.
Shubh: Well, thanks for bringing that one up. Yeah, we
Chaz: gotta
Shubh: have a bunk bed. Bleep. This is about the time I told the story about being beep, beep.
Me getting
Chaz: beeped. I like,
Shubh: Philippe's like, "This doesn't take that long. I'm a wizard with Descript." I'm like, "Yeah, with your Tech Thursday shit, you don't have to spend 30 minutes, like, isolating- ... uh- I'm listening ... saving careers. There's no career saving you have to do.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, okay, wait, uh, okay, what, how is this debunked?
Chaz: So yesterday, um, I met this very nice Hungarian man who was doing wallpaper for us.
Shubh: Mm.
Chaz: And I saw this crazy movement tech that I've never seen before.
Philippe: Whoa.
Chaz: This, [00:33:00] this guy had, like, I, I wanna say miniature ladder, but I know right away Shubh's gonna be like, "Oh, isn't that called a step ladder?" It's not- Yeah, that was a bit harsh, honestly
a full ladder step. It's it was, he had this miniature wooden ladder, and he would stand on the very top of it and almost use it like stilts. Yeah. And he could just walk around the entire room on this ladder. Whoa. Yeah.
Shubh: Chaz, can I disagree with you about something? Yeah. I don't think this debunks your idea at all.
Chaz: Well-
Shubh: I actually think this proves there's a market need for your idea.
Chaz: Mm, true, but it wouldn't... Imagine how much cheaper a small wooden ladder would be than-
Shubh: And how much more dangerous it is walking around on a wooden ladder like it's stilts.
Chaz: That's true. That's true. This guy has been wallpapering for 48 years, he told me, so-
Shubh: Yeah, but how many other people wallpaper for that long?
I'll tell you. Oh,
Chaz: ex-
Shubh: Not that many- Yeah ... 'cause they keep falling off ladders
Chaz: That's true. That's true. I mean, this guy was pretty elite at what- That's true ...
Shubh: uh- This guy- I
Philippe: know
Shubh: that guy This guy just might've been the Michael [00:34:00] Jordan of ladders. A ladder God.
Chaz: No, he very well could've been. Okay, so w- well, I mean, I think-
Shubh: I think you're back, baby.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Let me, let me give you- This guy is- Can I give you an analogy? I think that's highly relevant. When Henry Ford saw a horse-drawn carriage, he wasn't like, "Ah, shit, my car's been debunked."
Chaz: True.
Shubh: He was like, "I have a better way."
Chaz: Well...
Shubh: So I'm just saying, Segway ladder. Hungarian man, stilt ladder. Your ladder feels better.
Chaz: Yeah, you know what? It's safer. I have been called the Henry Ford of
Philippe: the- Yeah ...
Chaz: podcast before.
Philippe: Uh... I would love
Chaz: that
Philippe: if it was like, "Yo, Chaz, you're kinda like- Thank you, man ... the Henry Ford." Yeah. I think we- I think we've used that way more than once.
Shubh: I think we called you the Rob Ford.
Philippe: Oh.
Shubh: Yeah. Oh, yeah. RIP. I should've said Doug F- no, which one?
Yeah, Rob Ford. Rob Ford. Doug Ford? Rob Ford's funnier for sure. No, Doug Ford's the-
Philippe: Rob Ford's funnier. Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, let me get-
Philippe: Have you
Shubh: seen that movie? I think we called [00:35:00] you the Rob Ford.
Philippe: You said the same name again. Let me get this clean.
Shubh: Shit. You ever seen that movie Ford v. Ferrari? Anyway, uh- I have
Philippe: not ... have you see, have you seen the documentary about Rob Ford?
Chaz: Oh, yeah, of course
Philippe: I have. That shit is hilarious. Yeah, it's very entertaining. That guy was so funny. Yeah.
Shubh: This episode is all over the place.
Chaz: Shout out to Toronto, the greatest city in Canada.
Philippe: Represent.
Shubh: Uh,
Chaz: uh,
Shubh: listen, Toronto's nice. It's no Winnipeg though. You're talking to a Western Canadian podcast here, my friend.
Chaz: That's true. Shout out to Winnipeg.
Shubh: So just- So Toronto, top five city in Canada, no doubt.
Philippe: Yeah. But, but,
Shubh: but let's do it.
Philippe: Yeah, Toronto, Toronto's not even-
Shubh: You got Winnipeg and Edmonton tied.
Philippe: No. Well, I wouldn't even stand by
Shubh: that. What? I can't say I would even put them-
Chaz: Tied for second after Stratford.
Shubh: Yeah, yeah.
Well, Stratford's not a city technically, right? Yeah, it is. Doesn't it hit population
Chaz: threshold? I think it is.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: It's a
Chaz: city.
Philippe: Oh, does it? Shit.
Shubh: But, uh, you know what's a great city? Halifax. Oh, that's a-
Philippe: Halifax is a good city. Montreal.
Shubh: Montreal is a great city. Yeah.
Philippe: Montreal's cool. Vancouver. You know [00:36:00] what's not even sniffing top 20?
Chaz: Okay, here we go. Philip's hot takes. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.
Philippe: It's Ottawa.
Chaz: Yeah. I mean, that's not even a hot take. We can all agree
Shubh: on that. I once, uh, s- was in Ottawa in my 20s and we were, uh, you know, we were gonna go have some fun, and, uh- ... we couldn't get any alcohol.
Philippe: Really? It
Shubh: was like- It was like- It was like 8:00.
You
Philippe: just called silver a silverfish and you said, "Hey, can we watch some Paint Dry with you guys?"
Shubh: Yeah, silver tuna.
Philippe: Oh.
Chaz: Silverfish. Come on. That wasn't even a
Shubh: real fish. That's a stupid name. Uh, yeah, I agree with you. Uh, sorry Ottawa, I, I... It's not, you're not... It's a beautiful city, I will say. It's a very beautiful city.
It's high
Chaz: up. Ottawa's not even top 10 in Ontario.
Shubh: Oh. Through Kenora, Ontario? Come on. Uh, Toronto?
Chaz: Toronto, Stratford
Shubh: Stratford
Philippe: Sault Ste. Marie
Shubh: Gabe Lu- Lu- London? Thunder Bay No,
Philippe: London has
Chaz: gone downhill [00:37:00]
Shubh: Uh, my, uh, niece is going to school in Hamilton. Hamilton's not there either.
Chaz: Shout out to the Hammer
Shubh: Her name-
Chaz: Shout out Ethan Page
Shubh: Uh, yo-
Chaz: Shout out to the High Cats.
Shout out to my friend Kyle You know, Uncle Mustard.
Shubh: If you, if you, if you live in, uh, Burlington or Hamilton or Kitchener-Waterloo or Stratford- That's two cities ... or, uh, Niagara, uh, you know who you should call about your painting
Chaz: We're not going that
Shubh: far So, so- Just, just a bunch of dudes with Segway ladders going down the highway?
Philippe: Are you just Stratford?
Shubh: Are you Stratford only?
Chaz: Uh, well, we actually just did a house in Tillsonburg. That's like- ... an hour away. Shout out Tillsonburg- So you'll go to T- ... to Stompin' Tom Connors
Shubh: You'll go to Tillsonburg. Oh.
Philippe: Is Stompin' Tom from Tillsonburg?
Chaz: I don't think he's from Tillsonburg, but he has a song called Tillsonburg that- Oh
we bumpin' the entire time.
Philippe: That's sick. Yeah.
Shubh: Is it, uh, about that Tillsonburg or another Tillsonburg?
Chaz: Yeah, no, it's about that [00:38:00] Tillsonburg. It's about farm and tobacco in Tillsonburg.
Shubh: Huh.
Philippe: Do you get farm tobacco in
Shubh: Canada? Hey, speaking of farm and tobacco, how's the, uh, how's this, how's the nicotine break going?
Chaz: Oh, good question, Joe. Ooh. I'm impressed.
Philippe: And
Shubh: ladies and gentlemen, that's how you, uh, 21 podcasts in, you just, you pull that shit together.
Chaz: That's how you segue. That's
Philippe: how you segue. That's
Shubh: how you sag-way.
Philippe: Sag-way. Shut
Chaz: up.
Shubh: Do you like
Philippe: sag-way? Yeah. Since quitting, I have not even touched the stuff, but-
Chaz: Wow ...
Shubh: is that because you put it on the ground and picked it up with your mouth?
Philippe: That's right. No, I've, like, smelt it lustfully- ... but I have not, you know, not consumed any tobacco other than that. All right. But my, my quitting plan is, uh, I would still keep it with me for, l- like for two weeks I st- I would always have it on my body.
Shubh: Yeah.
Chaz: Keep that thang on me.
Philippe: Just be- because it was always, it was never a lack of convenience.
I [00:39:00] didn't want to be like, "Oh, if I just had it now, it would be right." Right. Right. Okay. It was always a power of mind thing, you know?
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: Look, that's what I would tell my friends, but- Uh, okay.
Shubh: What are we calling this, uh, what are we calling this segue for painting?
Chaz: Um, I don't know. I haven't got that far yet.
Shubh: I feel like that's a very critical part of this.
Philippe: What about, like, workers' legs?
Shubh: Workers' legs. I'm sorry. Workers' legs?
Philippe: Because I just think it's so, it's so applicable, so I'm trying to think of like- But you're not- ... not just for painting ...
Shubh: replacing my legs
Philippe: I, yeah, yeah, I'm trying, but, um, so first of all, no bad ideas in brainstorming, Shubh.
Shubh: You were, you were- And I say famously. You're famously on record as saying y- there are t- like a, like a million bad ideas. You hate people's ideas.
Philippe: Not in brainstorming. Yeah,
Chaz: that's true. Philippe's not brainstorming with them. He's just there to
Shubh: critique. Yeah, sorry. There's no bad idea when Philippe's brainstorming.
Is that what you were- Yeah.
Philippe: So, so anyway, I'm [00:40:00] going worker's legs because, like, uh, it's, it's applicable. It, well, maybe we should think of a new word. I think
Shubh: there's something where- There's something about legs ... workers
Chaz: seg.
Philippe: There's something about the up- Way ...
Shubh: up and down element to this that, you know?
There's an up and down.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Elevator, escalate, escalate, escapade.
Philippe: Like moveable ladder. Esc-
Shubh: Wait, what about the elepainter?
Chaz: Elepainter. I don't really get it.
Shubh: Like, it's like elevator, but the, the word painter.
Chaz: But-
Shubh: It's like-
Chaz: But then you're like, that's like just vertical. Do you know what I mean? The whole point of the Segway thing is that it moves
Shubh: all directions.
Okay, what's something that goes up and down and sideways? Slinky.
Chaz: Slinky.
Shubh: That doesn't work.
Chaz: That's the first thing you thought of?
Shubh: Cherry picker.
Chaz: Cherry picker.
Shubh: That, that maybe- I don't think you can use that term, though. What about
Philippe: the cutter?
Shubh: What?
Chaz: That sounds cool.
Philippe: With two Ds.
Chaz: Sounds
Philippe: badass. 'Cause you're, you're using it to cut in, but also- Okay
I'm trying to think of- [00:41:00] It's like a ladder? ... the ladder.
Chaz: Oh,
Philippe: okay. The cutter.
Shubh: Okay, that's not bad.
Philippe: And it sounds kind of badass, for sure. It
Chaz: does sound badass. That's not bad. That's for sure. Ladder.
Shubh: Yeah, I like the idea that it, you don't tie it to painting, though, because it, it's, it's got broader applicability, and you can take this thing horizontal. Yeah. You can take it horizontal. That's good. Uh. Why was
Philippe: that good? Yeah, I'm
Shubh: just, I'm saying from a marketing perspective- Yeah ... you can go horizontal.
Philippe: I see, I see.
Shubh: But it also goes horizontal.
Philippe: Okay, okay.
Shubh: You know what I'm saying?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: But it also goes vertical, too. Go vertical if you want. Mm. I, uh, think this is a great idea. I think, uh, go to market's very clear. Anybody who does work where they need to go up, down, sideways.
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: Right?
Philippe: Yep. Which, is that a lot of people?
I'm obviously a pretty white, white collar guy. Well,
Shubh: you could have stopped at white collar.
Philippe: I think it's
Chaz: a lot of
Shubh: [00:42:00] people.
Chaz: Yeah, people like, I see people online, like, using actual stilts to do things like this, so I feel like this is kind of like just a higher end version of that.
Shubh: Yeah. You know
Chaz: what I mean?
And you don't have to learn how to use stilts, even though learning how to use a Segway can be kind of scary, and doing it- 12 feet in the air is definitely not gonna make that any less
Shubh: scary. Yeah, but you'd have a, you'd have a, you'd have a series of weights and counterbalances. Oh, yeah. Sure.
Philippe: I feel like it would not necessarily move the same way as a Segway would move, where you would like- Yeah
lean it and- Yeah, you're
Shubh: not, like, flying over there. You might have-
Philippe: Yeah ... a
Shubh: little handle.
Philippe: It might actually have AI vision and see where you're at on the wall- Oh ... and automatically move you around the room.
Shubh: And then it could also have a little feature where it's like, "Hey, Chaz, you missed a spot."
Chaz: Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah.
Chaz: I love that.
Shubh: Ooh. That's good. Okay. That's a good add. I
Chaz: didn't even think of the AI capabilities.
Philippe: Boom.
Shubh: Yeah. I love this idea. We, uh, will workshop the name. Okay. Cutter is okay, but it, it sounds like maybe a [00:43:00] cow, like cow, cow, cow food. Ooh. That's
Chaz: true.
Philippe: Which is great though.
Shubh: Like, "Do you wanna make your cow some food?
You come get this cutter." Like, is your cow, is your cow- Wait, hold up. Let me finish. Does your cow get tired of chewing its own cud? Get the cutter. 'Cause it makes the cud for them. You know what I'm saying? Uh- Let's say, let's say the cow is- I
Philippe: don't know what he's saying ...
Shubh: let's say the cow doesn't have any teeth.
Philippe: All right, so what are you rating this idea? Hold
Shubh: on. Can I take 10 more minutes on cows?
Philippe: If you want to. No.
Shubh: Uh, I'm gonna give this, uh... I really like this idea. I think I like it better than the ref idea. What'd I give that one? 39? 47. Ooh.
Philippe: 47. Ooh.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: So I'm gonna g- go higher. I'm gonna give you a 55 on this one.
Ooh. I love it. Ooh.
Shubh: Philippe rowed the cutter all the way up to the next tier.
Chaz: Hell
Shubh: yeah.
Philippe: Hell yeah. I really enjoy it. That's huge. I would use it, I would've used it on the farm. I would've been the [00:44:00] top picker.
Shubh: The top picker. Where were you, uh, without this in terms of picking ranking?
Philippe: The bottom. The, the near the bottom quartile.
Shubh: Near the bottom quartile or in the bottom quartile?
Philippe: In the bottom quartile.
Shubh: Yeah, 'cause it feels like, because you said bottom quartile, you're making us think you weren't the worst.
Philippe: My
Shubh: f- Were you the worst picker? This is the question ...
Philippe: my friends I was with were much worse, but-
Shubh: Oh ...
Philippe: the three of us-
Shubh: Yeah ...
Philippe: were the worst pickers of the bunch.
Shubh: Okay, and so there was 12 pickers?
Philippe: Um, I don't actually know. It was, like, it was the three of us- Okay ... and then, like, two really strange French guys when we were just pruning the trees. Yeah. For about a month. You were one of
Shubh: the really strange- I was gonna say. So there was three, there was three really strange French guys.
Philippe: There was... I was the least French one there. Hell yeah.
Shubh: Yeah. But not the least strange.
Philippe: Uh, yeah, probably not the least strange. But that's all right. But new people joined in Case de Math. New people joined when it was picking season, but-
Shubh: And they, and they were ahead of you?
Philippe: And, and [00:45:00] they were like pros. They liked pruning fruit.
Oh. Yeah.
Shubh: Gotcha. Okay.
Philippe: Well-
Shubh: You guys were kinda like the, uh, the extra refs. Like, they just needed some people to clean up some of the apples when, when necessary 'cause these guys were out there- You know, generally do a good job.
Philippe: Exactly. Yeah, they hired us through Bouncers on Ice, I
Chaz: think. It's
Shubh: an
Chaz: app.
Shubh: All right, Chaz, you said your last one was your best one.
Chaz: Yeah. Yeah, this one's the good one, and again, we're gonna have to workshop this one a little bit. I definitely don't have a name for it, and I'm actually not sure exactly what the product's gonna look like, so I'm gonna be honest- I gotta be honest ... and
Shubh: tell you- It doesn't, it doesn't sound like your best.
Chaz: Well, I'm just gonna tell you what it is- Yeah ... and I'm gonna let you guys picture it in your mind's eye.
Shubh: Should we close our eyes?
Chaz: Maybe. Okay. I've got my eyes closed.
Philippe: So-
Shubh: My eyes are closed ... so,
Chaz: um, Peyton, my beautiful girlfriend- Yeah ... is a very, very big fan of Eggos, like a late-night Eggo- ... waffle.
Shubh: Uh- Uh, just for the audience out there, he's, he means Eggos.
Chaz: What did [00:46:00] I say?
Shubh: E- Eggos. For the people that brought you the segue. Okay. What
Chaz: is going on this episode?
Shubh: I like to go get Eggos on my segue. Eggo.
Chaz: No.
Shubh: Why are you talking like Forrest Gump today?
Chaz: With, uh, I... I said Eggo. What the fuck's wrong with Eggo? Eggo.
Shubh: Eggo.
Chaz: You're
Philippe: saying it with an A.
Shubh: Yeah, you're saying Eggo, like agriculture.
Chaz: Or like the Aggies
Philippe: or whatever.
Shubh: Yeah. Like the s- You're saying the A&M Aggies. You're saying egg.
Chaz: Eggo, yeah.
Shubh: Yeah, egg. The word is egg. Eggos.
Chaz: I feel like we're saying the same thing. Okay. Okay.
Shubh: I- Let's try to move past this. Keep going.
Chaz: Yeah, this is actually- So Peyton
Shubh: loves Eggos-
Chaz: Eggos ... which
Shubh: are waffles ... Eggos.
Yep.
Chaz: Eggos. Eggo. E- yeah, I got a EA thing going on, for sure. Um,
which
Philippe: reminds me of another funny story,
Chaz: but we'll save that for later. Anyways, Eggo.
Shubh: Yeah, Eggo. Yeah. That was better.
Chaz: [00:47:00] Eggo. Eggo. Yeah,
Shubh: that's
Philippe: it. That's the one.
Chaz: Eggo. My
Shubh: pitch for this idea is phonics for Chaz. I'm
Chaz: a painter now. It doesn't matter how I speak. My words mean
Philippe: nothing-
Chaz: You might weekly divulge into, like, the most blue
Philippe: collar guy of all time.
All right. Yeah.
Chaz: Anyways, as we all know, waffles- Yep ... have-
Shubh: Ridges ...
Chaz: the tiny little squares, right? Yeah. To hold the butter.
Shubh: Yeah, or-
Chaz: And the syrup ... syrup,
Shubh: yep. Yep.
Chaz: Well, both.
Shubh: Yeah.
Chaz: Um, and I've never really noticed until recently how particular Peyton is about getting a little bit of butter in every single square -
Shubh: Okay
Chaz: um- Oh ... before she... And, like, it's, it's brilliant. I've, since I've seen her doing it, I've started doing it a bunch, but it's very tedious, and it takes a while, and it can be kind of annoying. So my idea is- basically a butter roller- ... that has, [00:48:00] that has squares that would fit into the Eggo- ... like perfectly, and you essentially just can roll the butter perfectly even into your waffle.
Um-
Philippe: That's so good.
Chaz: Thoughts? What does, what does this look like in your mind?
Philippe: It, to me it looks like, uh, um, what would it be? Kind of well, kind of like a, kind of like a, a paintbrush actually.
Chaz: Yeah. That's a roller.
Philippe: Yeah, like a roller. Yeah. It's a paint roller. A paint roller. Yeah. But then it, it's, it, it has like little, uh- It's
Shubh: a paint roller.
It looks like a gear, but the gear parts are on the, on the outside, not on the side. You know what I mean?
Chaz: Yeah. Yeah.
Philippe: Yeah, but I, they're kind of all like little, they would be like tiny little spatulas that would fit... It would scoop your butter- ... that's like sitting at the top- Yeah ... and, and then, and then- Oh
kind of go into it, you know? And then- So
Chaz: you would like roll the butter first and then roll the waffle?
Philippe: You could do that. Is that what you're thinking? Or you could, or you could have the, the butter sit on top of this thing in [00:49:00] another kind of device- Oh ... and then it would automate. I
Shubh: like the idea of shoving the butter in the side like a caulking gun.
Like, you know, you shove the butter in the side- Yes ... and you have to squeeze it as you're rolling it, so the butter comes out while you're rolling it.
Chaz: Mm. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Hey- You know how like to do fresh Parm they have those roller things, and you put the Parmesan right in, and then you kinda like roll it.
You know what I'm talking about? Oh, that stuff's
Shubh: awesome. Big time, yeah.
Chaz: Is that Parm? I'm thinking of something like that, but you just put the butter in the middle of the roller- Yeah ... and then you, and then you roll it, and it dispenses the butter evenly.
Shubh: You know what? You know, na- nature has given us a, a model for this.
Chaz: Go on.
Shubh: You ever rolled a co- a cob of corn in butter?
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: This is basically a cob of corn. It's just more, the kernels are more, uh- Eggo
Chaz: shaped ... Eggo
Shubh: shaped. Like they're more square shaped. Yes. You know what I mean?
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Uh, the Butter... This thing needs a name. Paint's a genius.
Chaz: Yeah. I've been saying that. A
Shubh: lot of people are saying
Chaz: [00:50:00] that.
Shubh: A lot of people are saying that.
Philippe: The Butter My Eggos.
'Cause isn't it Lego my Eggo?
Shubh: Yeah. Square- Square
Chaz: It's Lego my Eggo.
Shubh: It's like Lego my Eggo. Uh-
Chaz: Lego ...
Shubh: square something
Chaz: other- It's not Lego my Eggo, is it?
Philippe: I thought
Shubh: it was Lego my Eggo. It's Lego, like let go of my Eggo.
Chaz: Yeah, but it's like Lego.
Shubh: Like Lego.
Chaz: Yeah, it's spelled L-E-G-G-O.
Shubh: Yeah, Lego my Eggo. Le-
Chaz: But, yeah, Lego.
Shubh: Well, your s- Lego my Eggo ...
Chaz: it
Shubh: kinda sounds like you're saying Lego
Chaz: That's what I'm saying
Shubh: Lego, Lego
Chaz: I think you guys are saying it wrong. I don't think I'm saying it-
Shubh: This is what Chaz sounds like today to me. "Jena."
Chaz: Okay, okay. Jena.
Shubh: Jena. Ru- run, Chaz. Um, okay, uh- Jena Jena. Jena. Uh, [00:51:00] you know who loves that? J- my man JBL loves saying Jena.
We worked with Jetty at, uh, New Network, and every time sh- "Jena." Okay. Um, I don't know what this thing is called, but I love it.
Chaz: Yeah, I don't... Again, I don't have any points.
Shubh: I actually think y- you could put, use... Like sometimes even when you're putting butter on something warm, you kinda gotta like roll it around a little.
You could just have a... You could have different, uh, um-
Chaz: Attachments ...
Shubh: different attachments for what you're rolling the butter onto.
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: You know what I mean?
Chaz: Now you're thinking. You- That's
Shubh: a pretty good idea.
Chaz: Yeah. I, I think, I don't know, I think this might top awkward desk in my opinion.
Shubh: Butter, butter, for the people that brought you cutter, it's budder.
Budder. With like a
Chaz: B-U-D-D.
Shubh: Hey budder, can I get some budder?
Philippe: Why, why don't we call it like a paint roller? Why don't we just call it a, a butter roller?
Shubh: Butter roller- Because that's boring ... butter rollers?
Philippe: No, it's like- It's more- I know not [00:52:00] boring, it's like- Butter roller ... like it's a butter roller. I, I... Why do I need one in my house?
Shubh: That's true. That's true. Sometimes the best product names are just calling a thing what it is.
Philippe: Exactly. Like the bike wash.
Shubh: But then you're like a butter roller, and then someone's like, "Oh, I'll get you some butter rolls," and then they show up with dinner rolls. Or they hear butt roller.
Philippe: Which-
Shubh: Massage... I mean, honestly, you probably use that for this too.
Philippe: Huh? I see what you're doing. You're doing it. No,
Shubh: you- I don't know. I'm not being gross.
Philippe: You're being gross. You
Shubh: see, you get these little massage things. You can roll along st- your muscles as they get tight.
Philippe: Oh, yeah. Okay.
Shubh: Okay. I love butter. You know what? Let's call it butter roller. Fuck it.
Chaz: Fuck it.
Shubh: Do
Philippe: you like that, Chaz?
Shubh: I like butter roller. Wait, hold on a sec. What about the syrup? We forgot about the syrup. That was part of this. How about the syrup?
Philippe: Well, the syrup doesn't have to be involved in this person- The more you think-
Shubh: You think that's a different product?
Philippe: No, well, you don't
Chaz: need- You just pour syrup on. You don't need a product for that.
I think
Shubh: you do. Oh, wait, hold on. I bet you if you ask Peyton this, she's like, "Is there always too much syrup in one of the squares because it's the, [00:53:00] it's the tributary for all the s- other squares, and, like, some of the other squares have low syrup?" Just saying.
Philippe: Surely.
Chaz: I think if sh- I think it's just a s- a skill issue.
If you, like, if you practice enough- Huh ... you can easily get enough syrup in there.
Shubh: Can't wait to get Pey-
Chaz: Peyton on here. Yeah. Hey, Chaz says you have a skill issue with syrup. Yeah, I was chatting shit. No, I didn't say that. Whoa. Oh, yeah. You said
Philippe: exactly that, my guy. Chaz
Shubh: says
Chaz: you- No, I said sh- if Shubh can't get syrup in every one of the squares- No, I didn't hear that.
I don't think I heard that.
Shubh: Let me just play that back Blup. Nope. Uh, I think, uh, what I heard is Chaz is saying he's Jordan when it comes to putting syrup in squares, on waffles. Yeah. And Peyton's Jordan with the Wizards when it comes to putting syrup in squares.
Chaz: Oh, you
Philippe: put so- You're still really good
far.
Shubh: Still pretty good, yeah. But, you know, he said he's better.
Philippe: His, his numbers that he was averaging with the Wizards will
Shubh: shock you. I've
Philippe: seen it.
Shubh: Yeah, they won't, because I've looked this up. Yeah. But you look 'em up. Uh, butter roller. Okay, I'm gonna, uh, maybe be a little controversial here. I still like the [00:54:00] painting idea.
I'm gonna go back to the painting idea. I'm gonna bump that up to 58. Okay. That's how much I like that idea. I'm gonna give this idea a cool... Uh, I, I like have a real affinity for this, uh, gang of refs idea. And so I feel bad about giving the butter roller a higher score than that. What? 'Cause I think from an entertainment and doing good in the world perspective, watching just a bunch of pretend referees pile down like- Yeah
the hallway when, when, you know, the real refs need an assist, would just be incredible theater. Yeah. And I think people, I think, uh, NHL ratings would go up. Hey, hey, Gary Bettman, you listening to Chaz's idea?
Chaz: Mm.
Shubh: The ratings would be like, "Oh my God, are they gonna have to pull the emergency refs in?" Maybe ice bouncers, the bouncers on ice.
So this, uh, butter roller, good. Not the, not as good as the, the-
Chaz: Butter roller is a billion-dollar idea in my opinion.
Philippe: Oh. A
Shubh: billion dollars. [00:55:00] Chaz, respect.
Chaz: That's what, that's what I'm evaluating it at right
Shubh: now. So what, what are you charging for this butter roller then?
Chaz: Cheap. Like
Philippe: five bucks?
Shubh: 10 bucks?
Chaz: Five bucks.
Five bucks.
Shubh: Okay. For the people. Cheap as possible.
Chaz: I
Philippe: meant for the people.
Shubh: Can we, can we do a little math? Uh, give me a, the billion dollars in revenue on $5 butter rollers.
Chaz: Oh, God. I'm not doing that.
Shubh: Uh, 200 million butter rollers.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: So what you're saying here is...
Chaz: I'm saying we'll s-
Shubh: There's probably-
Chaz: double
Shubh: the money on that ... one in every, one in every-
Chaz: At $5, so do that math ...
Shubh: one in every 10- ... one in every 10 households in the world has a butter roller?
Philippe: I mean, that sounds reasonable.
Chaz: Yeah. I mean, well-
Shubh: You guys realize, uh, you, you realize not everybody in the world eats waffles. You get that, right?
Philippe: Yeah.
Right? Loki, I don't really eat waffles, but...
Shubh: But you spent all that time in Amsterdam. Yeah,
Philippe: but- ... so you- Those are stroopwafels
Shubh: Oh,
Philippe: God. Yeah, I eat stroopwafels.
Shubh: Uh, [00:56:00] I'm giving the butter roller 33 out of 75.
Philippe: Whoa.
Shubh: What the fuck? Because I just think I can just put my butter on a waffle. I don't
Philippe: know. That's presumptuous of you.
Shubh: Yeah. I don't make waffles. I mean, respectfully, of everyone here, I make the most waffles
Philippe: I don't know. It sounds like- No, no, no,
Shubh: no ... Eggo, Eggo
Philippe: House or that.
Shubh: They, they heat up the most waffles. I make the most waffles.
Philippe: But I think this is, like, a specific Eggo product, no?
Chaz: Yeah. It is.
Shubh: Oh, you're ... Okay, now, okay, the only time I maybe bump up my score is if you can get one of these into every Eggo box.
Chaz: Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. Do you ... We're gonna sell so many more Eggos with
Philippe: this. Don't say ...
Shubh: Don't say like, "Of course that's what we're gonna do," like you
Philippe: had the idea.
Shubh: Well- You should've led with that.
Chaz: What do you ... '
Philippe: Cause Eggo has, like, those little purses, right? That will protect your Eggo on traveling.
Shubh: What?
Philippe: You've never seen one of those? Uh,
Chaz: no, you're ... No.
Shubh: I'm sorry?
Philippe: Eggo- Did you
Shubh: just say Eggo, the Eggo waffle people have little [00:57:00] purses for your waffles?
Philippe: Yeah, like, or, like, little hard coverings. Like, you know how you can-
Shubh: Like for an avocado.
Philippe: Yep. Or a
Shubh: banana.
Philippe: Or a sandwich, as well. Yep. What? Or a sandwich. Wait, wait, wait.
What, why do you need that?
Shubh: Chaz, like, I ain't never walked with a waffle that I couldn't just eat
Chaz: right away. Yeah, like, to keep it warm?
Philippe: I think he's saying to keep its shape. Uh, to keep its shape. Wait, let me see if I can find one.
Shubh: Are you thinking about a waffle
Chaz: iron?
Philippe: This. No. This. This
Chaz: is good old-fashioned
Shubh: global ads
Chaz: out there.
Shubh: Oh, yeah. Uh, uh, maybe that's an Eggo expander?
Philippe: Sh- ... Uh, yeah, it's just expandos.
Chaz: Portable expander. Those-
Shubh: We'll put this in the show notes ... rolling shears, rolling pin setup. Make sure you Texas this. Uh, okay, Chaz, I'm still not ... I'm, I'm not as sold on this one as the other one.
Chaz: Damn, okay.
Shubh: I'm still a 36.
Chaz: Okay, well.
Shubh: I mean, listen, I- I'm
Chaz: not letting you, I'm not letting you in on the investment.
Shubh: I ... Okay. And yeah, listen, I'm [00:58:00] happy to be wrong, brother. If, if you and Peyton are, uh, billionaires because of this idea-
Chaz: Mm-hmm ...
Shubh: I'm happy- Well- ... to be that guy who does the interview on the podcast, say, "Hey, I passed on this idea and I made a huge mistake."
Chaz: I'll sue you for everything you're worth if you mention me on this podcast after I'm really wrong.
Shubh: I can acknowledge when I'm wrong. I'm not one ... You know, I'm a highly confident individual, but I'm not insecure. I can admit- ... I can admit it if I'm wrong, you know?
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: Okay, Philippe, score for the waffle maker holder butter roller.
Philippe: Yeah, I really, uh- The butter roller. The butter roller.
Shubh: Uh, the butter roller pro.
Philippe: Uh, yeah, I would not use it. Um, but-
Chaz: Don't you think you would eat more waffles if you had a butter roller?
Philippe: Yeah. The
Shubh: catchphrase is, "Uh, spreading butter on your, on your breakfast is waffle." "Is a waffle experience." That would be the first pitch.
When you're pitching to, uh, Sequoia, that'd be slide one.
Philippe: Shaz, what'd you [00:59:00] think of that joke?
Chaz: I didn't like it. Don't you
Shubh: ever tell Shubh that No, no, no. The, the, the- The, the correct answer to Philippe's question, the correct answer to Philippe's question w- uh, was, uh, S- uh, Shubh, that was a waffle joke.
Philippe: Yeah, that was...
Okay. Uh, yeah, Shubh, you tells you have to leave three minutes early- Yeah ... for your soccer, soccer practice. Yeah. I love, I love that you stayed just to- ... make that joke twice. Do you want me to do more?
Shubh: I can do a couple more waffle jokes.
Philippe: Hey, sorry, Dada.
Shubh: Uh, you know, I'm not gonna change my mind on this. I'm definitely not gonna- I-
go waffle ...
Philippe: I do th- yeah. Have I given a score? Not yet, right? I think I
Shubh: know. 35.
Philippe: What's
Shubh: going on in Stratford with the cops here right now? 35. Can we talk about that? I'm, I'm- The
Chaz: cops? ... in town now. There's a lot of crime
Shubh: The cops were like- You know what that was? That actually wasn't the cops. That was an ambulance.
Yeah. Somebody, somebody without the, the painting segue just fell off their ladder.
Philippe: That's, that's waffle.
Shubh: I feel
Chaz: waffle for them. Yeah,
Shubh: Philippe's on the trolley. [01:00:00] Philippe's like, "Why have I debased myself?" Okay, score. Butter roller. 35.
Chaz: Ph-
Shubh: He gave it a lower score than I did, and he was, he was, he was bullying me.
Did you see that?
Chaz: Yeah. I mean- But, I mean, that's normal for Philippe. That 35's pretty good- ... from Philippe.
Philippe: It's true. It's true. Philippe-
Chaz: Damn, I really thought you guys were gonna love this idea. That's kind of-
Philippe: Yeah. But I lo- I, I wouldn't shit in the world, because I think it could be funny. Like- Yeah ... it's a buttery corn on the cob that you roll on waffles.
Like, I-
Shubh: Actually, can I- I want that to
Philippe: be a
Shubh: thing ... can I suggest one thing as an idea I just had? Instead of a roller, a, a thing you put on top of it, and then it's like a... You ma- you put the butter in, and then you squish the top down, and all the butter just immediately goes in all the, the squares. You know what I mean?
Chaz: Like a stamp?
Shubh: Yeah, butter stamp. Oh, a butter stamp. Butter
Philippe: stamp.
Shubh: Butter squeezy. Butter squeezy.
Philippe: Yeah, sure. Yeah. [01:01:00]
Shubh: Butter gun.
Philippe: It's all kind of... Yeah.
Shubh: Anyway, you s- Yeah, yeah. I, I think you- Uh, whatever ... I think you started hot, Chaz. I think you got hotter- I- ... and
Philippe: then I think you got a little cold ... wait, that actually might exist, though.
Like, um, you know, if you're... Ha- have you guys ever made shortbread cookies?
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: And you push them through the thing that you-
Shubh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Philippe: Could you just have a bigger thing like that, and then it, it just had the shape of an Eggo? Yeah. And you put a stick of butter in there and just-
Shubh: Yeah ... go. That's exactly what I'm proposing,
Philippe: yeah.
Oh.
Chaz: All right, whatever.
Philippe: I love it.
Shubh: Hey, you know what? I feel like we ended on a real, like, Chaz is kind of mad. He's a little upset now. Can we just- Yeah ... go back and talk about how much we love the other ideas? Maybe hit him with that, Philippe. He needs a little confidence boost.
Philippe: I love the other ideas. I love the segue, Chaz.
Shubh: Segway.
Philippe: It was such a good one, yeah. I love
Shubh: the Segway.
Chaz: Oh,
Philippe: man. And then your other idea, which was, again? The refs ... the refs The refs The ref- the bouncers on ice
Chaz: I'm never pitching again
Philippe: It was a no-hit idea. The [01:02:00] refs
Shubh: saying, "I love Bouncers on Ice. I think it's absolute, absolute
Chaz: madness" That was my worst idea.
I don't get how you guys like that one.
Philippe: I think the best idea was actually therapyint.
Shubh: Mm-hmm.
Philippe: I can't wait to hire a company- Yo, that-
Shubh: We're gonna call
Philippe: this- I can't wait to hire companies just so we can hang out with them ...
Shubh: we're gonna call this episode Therapyint. I didn't wanna say that earlier, but that was definitely-
Philippe: Yeah, this kind of is Therapyint.
We get to talk with Chaz for a little bit
Shubh: I feel better after talking to Chaz
Philippe: Yeah, me too. I- You have
Shubh: that
Chaz: effect on people Well, I'm glad you guys feel better after this conversation.
Shubh: I think by and large- Well,
Philippe: that's what therapy is, like, we're, we're, we're using you-
Shubh: Chaz, your, your- ... you're sucking
Chaz: the energy out of me
Shubh: your, your gift to the world is you leave people in a better, uh, emotional and mental place than when you found them
Chaz: And then I'm just-
Shubh: And I'm being serious ... Shubh,
Chaz: right?
Shubh: Yep. I mean- It was
Philippe: very wholesome of
Shubh: you ... but the tough part is, yeah, you know, sometimes it can be a little tough on, uh, on yourself, you know?
'Cause people take- Whatever ... people are takers
Chaz: Whatever Whatever
Shubh: They're all takers. Anyway, uh, well, Peyton, uh, [01:03:00] I hope you get a waffle. Chaz, go make Peyton a waffle.
Chaz: That's actually, that does sound really good right now Yeah.
Philippe: It's
Shubh: instantly- It'd be like, "I made you Eggos" Then find out how she says Eggos
Chaz: Eggo
Shubh: And ask her how to pronounce Segway
Chaz: Eggo.
Eggo.
Shubh: All right. That's it. I gotta wrap because I am gonna be very late. And I'm taking, uh, I'm actually picking up a number of kids to take them to practice, so practice is almost certainly not gonna happen on a- on account of this podcast.
Chaz: Well, imagine how much time you could save with the butter roller
Shubh: How the- There- Okay
Chaz: if you gotta make every one of those kids a waffle before, and you gotta put butter in every one of the crevices of the waffle, you would save so much time with the butter roller. And time is money, Shubh. I don't have to tell you that. You
Shubh: know what? I change my score. 12.
Chaz: Oh, fuck.
Shubh: All right, buddy. Thanks, Chaz.
You, you did a dynamite job. You saved this episode.
Chaz: TTYL. TTYS.
Shubh: YS TYSM.
Chaz: [01:04:00] Peace Peace
Shubh: P-E-A-C-E.
Chaz: Go to practice,
Shubh: Shubh. Bye-bye. This is a presentation of Indian Dad Media in association with
Philippe: This is a Thursday Media production.