YBIOTL Episode 5 Publish
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Shubh: [00:00:00] At the time of this recording, your business is on The line is now the 44th Ranked Entrepreneurship podcast in Canada, and like all the highly ranked podcasters before me, I'm recording this late at night in my bedroom closet, so I do not wake up my kids. Welcome to episode five of Your Businesses On the Line and Indian Dad
Chaz: Media Production in association with.
Philippe: This is a Thursday media production.
Shubh: Hello and welcome to episode five of Your Business Is On the Line. Today we have a very, very special episode, uh, featuring Philip Burns special guest host, and Chaz Summers on the mic as a producer and a guest today. It is a, uh, special holiday vacation themed episode, which will make no sense because this will likely come out late January, but we are still, [00:01:00] uh, wrestling with the constructs of space time when it comes to the production and releasing of this podcast.
Philippe: Time is not linear. In this podcast universe's, we've already That's correct. I think we've established that and, uh, yeah. I'm so thrilled you know why this one is, is holiday themed because you're interrupting me on my holiday vacation.
Shubh: That's so Philip for the audience. Uh, Philip is on vacation with his family in Hawaii.
Uh, jokingly said, Hey, we should record a podcast here. Yeah. And then Chaz and I thought it would be rather hilarious. To ruin part of his vacation. Interrupt part of his vacation. Enhance part of his vacation. It is, uh, what 7:00 AM where you are Philip right now. So even better. Yeah.
Philippe: Seven 40. Yeah.
Shubh: We've established that, uh, we're gonna wake your family up to, which is just, just a wonderful way to kick off the holiday season.[00:02:00]
Um, that's right. Before we get to too much else, boys, I have a question. Uh, it's a couple days after Christmas again. Travel time, travel a few days after Christmas. How did Santa do for you? Philip
Philippe: Santa? Did we? So
Shubh: keep talking. It's the quietest I've ever heard you talk. It's delightful. Okay. Keep going.
Sorry.
Philippe: Well, in, uh, Santa was really this, this trip. We, we don't really do presents in, in my family, we're gift giving is not a language of love for any of us. Yeah. But my brother's new wife, my new sister-in-law, she does not know that yet. And so she got me a gift and she just got back from Mongolia. Yeah.
So she got me a beautiful cashmere mon Mongolian cashmere blanket. It very stunning. So that was a really lovely gift. So I, [00:03:00] I did get that, which was great.
Shubh: Can we just, uh, scenario build here for a second? So it's Christmas day. None of the burnses get each other gifts, but there's 1, 2, 3, there's four gifts under the tree.
One of whom is your. But there's nothing for your sister-in-law, is that right?
Philippe: No. My mom actually did make her thank goodness. Oh, she made her
Shubh: her mom's. Hey,
Philippe: ceramic. A ceramic cup. Thank God. Yeah.
Shubh: Oh, your mom came through. But you, but you, just to be clear, you got a gift from your. Your sister-in-law, first holiday Christmas with the family.
Philippe: Yep.
Shubh: And you got her absolutely nothing in return. Did your mom at least put everybody's name on the card?
Philippe: No. No. It was Victor. It was only from my mom.
Shubh: Okay.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Alright.
Philippe: Okay. Well, what did you get?
Shubh: Well, I want to hear from Chaz first. Chaz, what, how did, how'd you do for Christmas?
Chaz: Um, my Christmas hall this year was pretty good.
The highlight is [00:04:00] probably this like. I don't wanna call it miniature, but it's definitely not full size. This like mid-size crockpot, we'll call it. Um, okay.
Philippe: Whoa.
Chaz: It's like not big enough to cook a full family meal in, but definitely big enough to like. Keep a dip hot for a party or something like that. And it was designed by Drew Barrymore.
So that's very
Shubh: what
Chaz: it's very, it looks very cool. Yeah. Um, I won that in the secret Santa game or whatever, or the white elephant game, sorry. Um, and then I got a pretty sweet new Yeti that I've been sipping on pretty hard. Whoa.
Shubh: I, uh, this crock pot. It sounds I like keeping your dips hot.
Chaz: Yeah. Yeah. I
Shubh: need fan about one keep.
Could you, could you warm your salsa and keep it hot in there?
Chaz: You most certainly could.
Philippe: I,
Shubh: it,
Philippe: this is a, this is a serious crock pott.
Chaz: Oh yeah. It's, it's serious and it's stylish.
Shubh: Still [00:05:00] trying to run out and grab one for your sister-in-law, Phil, before the trip's over.
Okay. So, uh, Christmas, I, um, I'm actually also got a Yeti, but not a drinking Yeti. I'm speaking into a USB Yeti microphone. That was a gift from my sister-in-law. We do secret Santa amongst the adults. In, in Rita's family and amongst the children. So I got, I got this mic from my sister-in-law on my side of the family, from my sister.
I got. I did not know about this brand Quince. It's a clothing brand. So I got these pants and I also got cashmere. I got a couple cashmere sweaters, Philip. Wow. And then, uh, I want to talk for a second about the gifts that I gave to people because as you know, I like to inflate self worth, but I, um, supporting a couple startups here in town, but, uh, taste the city gift cards for a couple people in the family.
Philippe: Oh, you've some of those.
Shubh: I did. So Taste the city. Um, you'll hear more about Taste the City [00:06:00] in an upcoming episode. Teaser, spoil. It comes out. Yeah. Teaser.
Philippe: You'll also hear more about, if I may, may I? Yes,
Shubh: of course.
Philippe: We, I'm, I, last we recorded an outro and, uh, I like dmd, this director who's directing the world's biggest.
Um,
Shubh: this is a documentary film about traveling to go see the world's biggest pierogi. Yeah,
Philippe: and we're, we're gonna go for coffee and you better believe I'm gonna get her to come on this podcast and pitch day if,
Shubh: if she, if she comes on the podcast, it'd be fabulous if somehow Dan could be featured in documentary.
I think that would also be delightful.
Philippe: I think we should bring Dan back when we get her back. When we get her on Totally. And they can like talk about this idea. I think that would be so episode.
Shubh: Yeah, we'll call that episode. Dan Chapman. Returns with a giant pierogi.
Philippe: A
Shubh: little wordy. I got one more thing I have to talk about though, from a gift giving perspective.
Yeah. [00:07:00] So I had my mother-in-law for Secret Santa That's, and I got her a couple things. One of the gifts was a mug that said, I don't have a favorite child, but if I did, it would be my son-in-law. And then you have to guess who your secret Santa is. And she guessed. Yeah, this, she guessed my, uh, my brother-in-law.
So that was, uh, that didn't feel incredible. I'm not gonna lie because I'm on record telling everybody that I am, um, my mother-in-law's favorite son-in-law, which I think was debunked.
Philippe: That is so funny.
Shubh: Christmas, you narrowed. I would suggest
Philippe: you, you narrowed the pool down. So much. Yeah. And she still got it.
Robin,
Shubh: it sounds like Philip though. You should maybe have gotten your mom a gift. That said, my favorite child is my daughter-in-law. Um,
Philippe: [00:08:00] I should have, yeah.
Shubh: Oh, okay. So, uh, just a couple of things before we get to the meat of the show so we can allow Philip to go back and have. Uh, breakfast and go surfing.
I don't know what you're doing today, but it's probably something
Philippe: that sounds great. That might be exactly what I do.
Shubh: We are now,
Philippe: I can stay on this podcast all day if you want. I, I'll stay on this podcast all day.
Shubh: All all day. We could, uh, we could.
Philippe: This is great. Yeah. This is,
Shubh: I would love to get your better
Philippe: surfing.
Shubh: I would love to get your sister-in-law and ask her how she really feels about. Like, not kidding. The, the, the non duplex gift giving scenario that she's walked into here. Simplex, I believe we call that is one way we are fully out in the world now and live on the Internets reception has not been terrible.
There's people who've listened every day on our little graph. It shows people listening. So that's been very exciting. Um, we're getting social pages set up. Uh. Chaz has to start clipping some stuff if he ever, if he ever gets [00:09:00] outta bed and uh, yeah.
Philippe: What time? It's 7:00 AM here. What time is it there, Chaz?
Shubh: It's a lot later. Where he is? Yeah. It's 1:00 PM.
Philippe: 1:00 PM And you're still in bed?
Shubh: Yeah. But if he goes and checks that crockpot, I bet that dip is still hot from last night.
Okay. Philip has been traveling. Over text message on vacation. Decide to do a podcast. Chaz, uh, I thought it'd be fun if you and I pitched a couple of travel related ideas. You were rapid firing us with some ideas over Texas this week. Would you like to go? Would you like to go first? Would you like to me, me to go first?
Chaz: Do you want me to do the rapid fire ones or do you I do have another one that kind of works for vacation.
Shubh: I want to hear the other one that kind of works for vacation, for sure.
Chaz: Okay.
Shubh: Yeah, let's hear it. This is for the record, Chaz's first time. Pitching on this podcast. Yeah, this
Chaz: is my, which
Shubh: so exciting.
She's doing a lot of free work for. [00:10:00]
Chaz: Yeah, this is the first official pitch and it actually, I did actually think of this one a couple weeks ago. Okay. Um. When I, when I was listening to the Flos episode, and I, I don't know, I just kind of got a little bit inspired by the water, the aquatic theme, uh, we'll call
Shubh: it.
Oh, and Philip, you're in Hawaii as we speak?
Chaz: Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. Let, let's
Shubh: see
Chaz: if,
Shubh: if I can use
Chaz: this. I do, I do just wanna preface this by saying this is kind of like a Pips lips pitch, where we definitely have a lot of flushing out to do.
Shubh: Hey, Chad, first rule of pitching when you're, and this is a lesson out there for folks pitching either venture capital or for investment or anything else.
Don't equivocate, just pitch. Don't, don't submarine your own pitch before it starts. Just,
Chaz: okay. Okay. Okay.
Shubh: Just pitch, pitch as if operate, operate with. Just a high degree of confidence.
Chaz: Okay.
Shubh: Okay. Well, well, we will need, need to hire,
Philippe: first of all, what? The help pip [00:11:00] ups is a perfect idea that needs no help.
But, you know, feel this Kiss
Shubh: me flotation device for your, is it, is it inflatable lips? Okay. Okay. Wait, wait. We're ruining it. Okay, we're ready. Philip, it's Phil. You ready? Pip you ready?
Philippe: I'm ready.
Chaz: It's, I'm ready. It's actually like the opposite of Pips lips. I need help with the marketing and the branding, but I think I have the product nailed down.
Shubh: Let's hear it.
Chaz: So picture your favorite floaty like pool, floaty, launchable chair. Fully, like a fully extendable launchable chair where you can sit and float in the water.
Shubh: Yes,
Chaz: but there's a desk on top. And it can, and your laptop attaches to the flotation device, and the company's guarantee is that your laptop will never, ever get wet.[00:12:00]
And so you can essentially just sit in your pool and do work all day and yeah, you never have to worry about your, your laptop falling into the pool.
Philippe: This is such a perfect idea. This is not what I thought this was gonna be. I love that. I would, I need that right now. I could be, oh my gosh, I could be in the ocean right now.
Chaz: Oh my
Philippe: God. On this, on this podcast. That would be so, oh my god.
Shubh: Salt water guarantee as well.
Philippe: Salt water. Oh my God. Everything guaranteed.
Shubh: Okay. Okay. How does it, my first question.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: First of all, I think it is an Ace's idea.
Chaz: Thank you,
Shubh: Philip. But literally, like you said today, that could, you could have been on the, on your important work call before this one.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: You could have been on this pod, you could have been, you could have
Chaz: been podcasting from it.
Shubh: You could have been tech Thursday all day. You know what I mean? Yeah. Um, Tuesday's, the new Thursday. We're recordings on a Tuesday for that joke to make [00:13:00] sense. Yeah,
Chaz: that's
Shubh: okay. How does it prevent the laptop from getting wet?
Chaz, can you just, uh, maybe unpack that a little?
Chaz: Well, that would be a question better suited for the engineering team. But right now, the thing that I'm kind of picturing is like, first of all, it's like, like very hard to flip. Like you can't, like even if you have like two full grown men in the shallow end trying to flip you, it's still gonna be.
Very difficult. It's some
Shubh: summary and like, like big old ballast on the side.
Chaz: Yeah. That's kind of what I'm picturing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then also there's like a section that kind of like, I'm picturing like a, like a thin, clear plastic thing that you kind of slide the keyboard of the laptop into that would kind of hold everything in place and also prevent some type of water.
But then the big issue that I ran into was that. If, even if your laptop's dry and [00:14:00] not at the bottom of the pool, it's going to get really, really, really hot. So it's gonna need some type of like, umbrella as well, or some type of shading thing to kind of stop the sun from ruining your laptop. 'cause that's another guarantee that we'll have to make is that your, your laptop won't overheat.
Um. And like I have a list of all these guarantees that we can offer, but I don't actually know for sure how we're gonna get to them, which is where like the marketing and the engineering team would kind of come into play.
Philippe: Do you do, it seems like a lot of guarantees, like no water, no salt water.
Chaz: No,
Philippe: no sun.
What are there more?
Chaz: Um, those are like the big ones for sure. It's also like never gonna pop, that's for sure. And then it also needs to be able to like. Become small enough that you could pack it in your carry on, because obviously this is a vacation theme and you're gonna wanna bring it wherever you go.
This isn't just
Shubh: like, can get a big, heavy, ruggedized laptop. [00:15:00] Could be tough.
Chaz: Yeah, no, like I'm thinking like, like this thing is gonna be compact when it's all deflated and everything like that. Yeah.
Shubh: What, what if we made, what if we had a partnership with one of the ruggedized laptop providers, um, uh, Panasonic Toughbooks Depro, rugged G Tac,
Philippe: what into this
Shubh: hit us up?
Any of the, any of the hard, you know, the, the You ruggedized laptops in, in oil and gas and stuff, they're waterproof. Because I like the idea of, 'cause I think there's two problems here run. One is you don't want to have to flip in the water Right. Or get splashed. Mm-hmm. Even if your laptop is secured. So I, I love the idea of it being very difficult to tip.
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: The, maybe the laptop, maybe it's like a, we get a discounted rate on a ruggedized laptop, but Yeah, you have to, even just popping it in a little plastic sleeve might buy you the time you need.
Philippe: The other thing I think it could be is like, do you know those, um. The, the, there's backpacks that you [00:16:00] have when you go, um, skiing back country that will, like, if you get caught in an avalanche, will like
Shubh: Yes.
Philippe: Blow up all the way around you.
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: I feel like that's what this should, is like, it can flip
Shubh: Ooh,
Philippe: but when it flips, it like blows something up over your laptop and it doesn't get wet. Yeah.
Shubh: Okay. This, this is the exact same technology as the barbecue cover basically.
Chaz: Yeah. It's, it is very similar.
Shubh: Will you say we, you know, we have.
We have put the call out to the world. We need a product designer, a mechanical engineer of some kind.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: To support all the great ideas on this podcast. All the, yeah. I'm an engineer by training, but, uh, I don't know anything.
Chaz: But you're delegator now by choice.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm a founder, so I just, I just say things like, uh, I just say things like, guys, uh, what's their three year plan for this?
I, that's good.
Philippe: That's great.
Shubh: What, okay, so I love the idea, love the concept. I think we can solve the sleeving, your laptop or, or partnering with a ruggedized, waterproof [00:17:00] laptop company. Or, you know what, stick an iPad on there. Yeah. Aren't the new iPads a little waterproof? Is that a thing?
Chaz: Yeah. Chest. Well, you've got almost like the opposite of a rugged laptop and more of like a MacBook Air that kind of just slips in very sleekly and is just kind of, but I don't know.
A big rugged laptop could work too. I don't know how often those things
Shubh: are. I got it. I got it. Waterproof case for your iPad, right? With a little stand. With a little stand. Maybe we have to make a little stand into the inflatable.
Chaz: Yeah,
Shubh: and then some kind of Bluetooth keyboard. Okay. Like foldable Bluetooth keyboard that is also waterproof, which I'm sure if it doesn't exist.
When
you
Chaz: say foldable or floatable?
Shubh: Both. Both.
Chaz: Okay.
Shubh: Yeah. Yeah. So all we really need to develop is the keyboard and mouse accessory. No, right?
Chaz: Yeah. The floating mouse.
Shubh: Yeah. And then you're, you're
Philippe: home
Shubh: free.
Philippe: I, I think they do have waterproof Bluetooth keyboards. I think the only thing we have to develop now is, [00:18:00] is like a, a workstation floating.
Chaz: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The
Philippe: actual
Chaz: idea, yeah,
Philippe: idea. It's like all you have to develop is like this thing that doesn't flip, which is kind of crazy, but also like
guys,
Shubh: we got it.
Philippe: That port
Shubh: waterproof silicone keyboards exist, so waterproof case for your iPad, but it's got a fit into like a secure kind of thing.
Yeah. Right? Yeah. Then the keyboard tray. Got a waterproof keyboard. We've nailed the waterproof. We now need to just build the inflatable. Some kind of, you have to build compressor to fill it up with the amount of air Chaz is talking about.
Philippe: Really what this is, is it's the, you
Shubh: be the only guy in the pool.
Philippe: It's the saddest pool floating. 'cause it's like this pool floating is only for working. It least sits you outta desk. It's
Shubh: either the saddest pool floaty or the happiest pool. Floaty. Because Evan, you walked by and that guy was chilling out, working on his. Uh, inflatable workstation.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: I think I'd just be like, this person has it figured out.
Chaz: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: You
Chaz: know, that's, yeah, [00:19:00]
Philippe: dude,
Chaz: that's kind of what I was thinking. And we also won't need an air compressor 'cause I'll guarantee that it will self inflate.
Shubh: Wow. Many. There's a series of guarantees. Many.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: I would like to, yeah. Mean I, okay. What is this thing going to be called?
Chaz: Ooh. I haven't really got that far my thought process yet,
Shubh: because I could see this being, I mean, you said this was like Pip's lips.
This is, this is Flott adjacent, right? From the company that brought you Flott.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: It's a flask. No,
Chaz: I hate that.
Shubh: Yeah. Floor station station's. Better floor stationed, fluk station. I don't know, cubicle, is there word with cubicle?
Philippe: Mm-hmm.
Shubh: Uh, the. No
Philippe: Workation. Workation. [00:20:00]
Shubh: Workation. Sounds like you're getting more work.
Yeah, but I cut workation iss. Not bad work. Inflatable. How about the inflatable desk? That's kind of where I was just going like
Chaz: straight to
Shubh: the point. What about
Chaz: de. That sounds like,
Shubh: like you're playing pool and it sounds like like a boring version of Deadpool.
Yeah, I don't know.
Philippe: It would be great if, just like Ryan Reynolds just starts, like those movies just become him working.
Shubh: He does work a lot. He would probably love this. We could, we reach out to him. I think this is a, I, I mean, in the absence of the name. I don't know what's happening in the background. Are you trying to make this floating desk right now?
Chaz? Sorry, I
Chaz: thought I was muted. I was letting the cat out.
Shubh: I think the, the [00:21:00] only thing that this thing needs is a name. Yeah, I think everything else is perfect. I think so far the best name is, uh, what was Phil's again?
Philippe: Uh, work Workfl.
Shubh: No, you had a better one. I think
Philippe: I do think product design wise. Similar to large sailboats, you need a really big, what's it called?
Scag that goes down so that it doesn't flip like it needs to be like, like it needs to almost hit the bottom of
Shubh: the
Philippe: pool. My
Shubh: people are, my people don't know anything about sailing. I'm definitely hanging out with, I'll take the word for it. Yeah, they,
Philippe: they sail right in. Muskoka shots.
Shubh: So much sailing, uh, you and your boys are
Philippe: always up there sailing
Shubh: up north.
I think the, the, you know, the thing maybe to lean into is this is unsinkable, right? It's like the unsinkable desk.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: There's something there. Like it's the Titanic of desks, except [00:22:00] it's unsinkable un. I don't have a name. I think, um, work floor float.
Chaz: If we gave sho a whiteboard, I'm sure it'd
Shubh: be able to minutes. I probably, I need an hour and a half. Phil. Phil, you're gonna cancel the rest of your trip. Trip. We could get on a,
Philippe: we are not. I'm not leaving Hawaii until I find a name for this thing. Um, yeah. When you rate this sho out of
Shubh: 75 sauces. Oh, okay.
So outta 75 SALs. Okay. I think I'm gonna start dividing my score into two parts. The 40 for the idea itself, and then 35 for the branding and go to market.
Chaz: Okay.
Shubh: I think the idea itself is a. 36 outta 40. It's uh, that's
Chaz: sweet.
Shubh: It's brilliant. It's, and I, I've never seen anything like it before. I think there's probably, if you looked out your window right now, pip, there's probably some guy, like in like a regular floating thing trying to work, you [00:23:00] know, on his laptop.
But he keeps jumping out to go to his poolside cabana.
Chaz: He's on his fourth laptop of the day because he's falling in the pool.
Shubh: Um. It's, uh, the, the, the branding and go to market, I think go to market easy, right? Like you could, you could sell the crap outta this thing. I think we need to sort out branding and, and such, so I'm gonna give this a 20 outta 35 on my, my brand.
Hell yeah. So total 56.
Philippe: Fuck
Shubh: yeah. 56 salsas out of 75.
Philippe: I, I love this. I love this idea. I think this is a really great idea. I think there are too many guarantees, though. I don't, I really don't think we can get idea. Yeah. We're gonna charge
Shubh: $1,800 for this thing.
Chaz: Quite frankly, I don't think there's enough guarantees.
I'm trying to think of more so. Guaranteed the laptop won't get wet. You won't flip over. It'll self inflate. Uh, in, in carrot, in on bag. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's light enough so you can fit it. Carry on [00:24:00]
Philippe: and, and, and you should do like always have, you know, built in wifi that will be strong enough to maintain any calls that you have.
Chaz: Great idea. Wifi guarantee no matter where you are, comes with its own starlink, BA satellite backhaul. Yeah. Now you guys are thinking, well, I mean, there's a premium version, obviously
Philippe: this is
Chaz: just a shift. No, it's just a guarantee. That's a basic guarantee.
Shubh: Uh, so pip, you gotta, you got a score for us.
Philippe: Yeah. You
Shubh: concerned about the number of guarantees? The fact that we haven't designed it and it doesn't have a name.
Philippe: So what the, the, the no, the no name. I, I think the idea is really strong. I think the. The the number of guarantees and where we're at in terms of current engineering.
These is, these are my two hangups. Um,
Shubh: yeah. Yeah.
Philippe: Because I think it's itself. Yeah. So I'm gonna give this you, the way you did it is very complicated, but I'm gonna give this [00:25:00] 56 salsas
Chaz: awesome.
Shubh: 2 56 of Chaz for your first ever pitch. That's pretty good.
Chaz: Yeah.
Shubh: But we're gonna need to see is some sketches.
Maybe you can do a sketch of what this could look like and you could then throw it up on the Instagram channel.
Chaz: That's a good
Shubh: idea.
Philippe: And making me, making me in the
Chaz: pool. I love it. Yeah.
Shubh: Yeah. Make, oh, make a pip of the pool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How is, how is your art skills?
Chaz: Very good.
Shubh: Okay. I've got a really quick idea to pitch before we go, before we let Philip get back to his,
Philippe: I got one too.
Shubh: His his family. Oh, you got one too?
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: I came up with it yesterday. Feels like your pretty is pretty good, pretty bad. Mine isn't that good. Okay. Mine's a one line, it's not even a pitch. Actually, let's not even rate this one. I just wanna throw this out in an idea. You know, when you're traveling, you're waiting in airports.
I've seen a couple airports with gyms. Um, I would like there to be a bowling alley in Oh,
Philippe: that's, that's half the time.
Shubh: Yeah. And uh, and you would call it flight lanes. [00:26:00]
Philippe: Okay. Yeah, that's me.
Shubh: Yeah. There's, there's planes and there's, you know, flight lanes. Is flight is, is flight like a term for bowling too, or No?
You know what I changed my mind would be called planes. Per lands 'cause plane because there's planes at the airport. You get
Philippe: it per lands
Shubh: could be something. Okay. Don't rate this idea. Just something I want to, I just want you to think about when you're flying through an airport,
Philippe: but to double up here, I think there are two things.
One is there are not enough activities to do in an airport like there's other than shop and drink. Like the only thing, like we could totally do some bowling lines there.
Shubh: Pearson and Toronto has a, a gym of good Life or something. Yeah,
Philippe: that's great. The other thing though, um, is hot take lounges overrated.
I was in a lounge in [00:27:00] Vancouver. It's fluorescent lighting. Everyone's in there acting like maniacs over the free food. It's loud cups are clanking. I leave, I walk out. Into, you know, general Pop Jen Pop. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Yeah. If you, if you'll so quiet. Yes. And like, and there's lovely music and it's relaxing and I'm going, what the hell are we doing?
We've like, just convinced ourselves
Shubh: that is benefit. I would say lounges. Lounges have regressed from where they once were and the rest of the airport in many cities has, uh. Greed. The, the, the airport progress. The airports have gotten nicer. Oh yes. Progress. Thank you. That was the word I could not find.
Uh, the rest of the airport has gotten nicer and the lounges have gotten less nice. And, uh, I would agree with you. I don't think you're wrong.
Philippe: Yeah. So bring bowling lanes to the, to, for everyone. Democratize
Shubh: Paul's. Okay. You guys got [00:28:00] time for For a quick, a quick 10. 10 frames at Pauline's. I know I would.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Alright.
Philippe: That's great. I
Shubh: love that.
Philippe: I love that
Shubh: you are, you
Chaz: have a, are you picturing, wait, I have a question quick. Yeah. Are you picturing like a traditional bowling lane just in the middle of the airport or is it more just like scattered lanes, just kind of wherever you can fit them in the airport?
Shubh: Just one random lane. Like kind of how you can get those backyard bowling alleys where you just lay them down.
Chaz: Yeah. Yeah.
Shubh: Honestly, I wasn't, I was picturing a traditional bowling alley, but now I think just a random. Like a random bowling lane would be kind of awesome.
Chaz: Yeah, I think that'd be more efficient, wouldn't it?
Shubh: Yeah. I don't know.
Philippe: I think that'd ponder on that one because I think like, you know, you have the, the moving stairs.
Shubh: I'll be honest guys, I just threw this in as like a, like a transitional element between Chaz and Phyllis and now you guys got me thinking this really good idea. So I'm [00:29:00] gonna franchise, gotta talk to a bowling franchise and some airport people.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Because you know, like there's so many things. I used to think movie theaters, but you never like three hours, two and a half hours is, and you gotta time that. Right. Bowling can be any time. Right. You can knock that out in an hour. Yeah. It's active.
Philippe: Yeah. Oh, I like movie theaters though. That's kind of fun if you have a really long layover.
Shubh: Yeah. But bowling alley. All right. Pip, you got a real idea.
Philippe: Yeah. Well no, I just thought about this briefly. When you're in Hawaii, there's like very. There's very few things to complain about.
Shubh: Chaz, you ever been to Hawaii?
Philippe: No.
Shubh: Oh, you gotta go,
Philippe: so you wouldn't know, but it's like, it's like paradise, you know?
Shubh: Yeah.
Philippe: Wouldn't you say Chubb?
Shubh: Yep. I've been there a lot of time. I mean, I, this is, this podcast is now is, we are now limiting broad swaths of the population, talking about airport lounges and our Hawaii trips. Despite the Patreon episode, you know how on, you know how on sailboats [00:30:00] when you're sailing through the islands of Hawaii, after you get off the lounge, you know though, you know, you know it's very accessible to.
To everybody
Chaz: I like, like lounges, but they're just filled with savages.
Shubh: Okay. We're off
Chaz: the lounges
Shubh: now.
Philippe: You know
Chaz: when you go to,
Shubh: you know when you go to Hawaii?
Philippe: Yeah. So very little to complain about, but I've found one thing to complain about. Yeah. Which is, which is sand on the feet. There's no way to get Oh, yeah.
There's no way to get from the ocean to your beach chair. Yeah. Without getting sand on your feet. And then you just have sand on for hours until you leave and you find a, um, a spigot or like, you know, some sort of hose to wash off your feet.
Shubh: Yeah. Introduce,
Philippe: introducing Sands off. The first device to get sand off your feet.
It's incredible. Your feet.
Chaz: Yeah,
Philippe: yeah, exactly. It's like hands off [00:31:00] sands, off gets, gets sand off your feet at your beach chair.
Chaz: What does it
Philippe: look
Chaz: like? What is it you stick your put in it?
Philippe: It's just a towel. You just bring an extra towel,
Shubh: but it's got, is it like specialized in some way, shape, or form?
Philippe: Um,
Shubh: because a regular towel, the stand then gets stuck in there.
Could it be some kind of like a, some kind of like more B bristly towel?
Philippe: Well, in my mind. I had like over-engineered it until just now when I was pitching you guys, like, I thought it was gonna be like compression boots like LeBron has, you know where and you like put it in it, like dries in and then it cleans
Shubh: it.
Yeah. I got a pair of those for Christmas. Never forgot to mention that anyway.
Philippe: Oh really?
Shubh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Philippe: But now I think that's like way too much. It could really just be like a towel. So like a really B bristly towel I think would work.
Shubh: It, I think a BRI towel that didn't retain moisture so it doesn't get wet in the sand, doesn't get stuck to it, right?
Philippe: Yeah. It's,
Shubh: you ever tried to wipe sand off with a [00:32:00] wet towel? It's really tough. Um, this is a really, I mean, this is a big problem. Could you use it on other parts of your body?
Chaz: No.
Philippe: Yeah, for sure.
Shubh: Chest. That's, I, that'd be called something different, obviously. No, it's Sands off. Yeah. Be sands off.
Philippe: I think the legs too.
'cause your legs get wet. Sandy.
Shubh: The legs is the worst. It's a nightmare. It I'll be, yeah. Yeah, but when I'm on the beach in Hawaii and I've got a little bit of sand on my legs, I sit there thinking to myself, can life get any worse than at this moment?
Philippe: It's really, yeah.
Shubh: So that's my, what do you guys think of Sands Off?
This is the most privileged episode. We're talking about airport problems working on your laptop. In the ocean, or a lake or in the pool. Um, I love the idea. I think it solves, I think it's like one of those great ideas, like the snuggy where it could just, you could just sell a bunch of these [00:33:00] for three months, right?
Like, I think after that you'd be in trouble. But I think the fabric would have to be especially engineered or designed so that it, uh, it didn't. Retain all the sand because you know you're gonna drop the sands off in the sand. You don't wanna pick it up and have it be covered in sand, you know what I mean?
Philippe: Oh.
Shubh: So it's gotta be like a sort of
Philippe: antis sand material,
Shubh: some sort of like a Teflon. I don't know how that would work with wiping your feet off. Um, yeah, no, I think it would, I think this is great. I think this is a great name. I think it's a great idea. I think it's, uh, no idea how to make it. How to differentiate to your point from a, just a regular towel.
But, but I think, I think if we can figure out a way for the, for it to be a regular, like a regular towel, but it doesn't get sandy when you put it down. Yeah. And actually if we could adjust that technology, you know, when you put a beach towel on the sand and it just, all the sand gets in the beach towel.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: I mean maybe you could, sands off could just be a line. So you could a [00:34:00] line of getting, getting it off you, but you could have sands off your sands off beach towel.
Philippe: Different
Shubh: sizes, ties in pretty well with Flos. That's all I'm saying for the people that brought you Flos sands off, because also this whole thing could just be like incremental increases in convenience for when you go swimming.
Or to the beach.
Philippe: Yeah,
Shubh: that could be our whole market, market line. I mean,
Philippe: small marginal
Shubh: making. It's not far away from, from Cha Chaz's. Id either like,
Philippe: yeah,
Shubh: we just have an aquatic, an aquatic theme. Do you know what I mean?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: I love it. I think's great. This is great. Chaz, you got thoughts on this idea?
Chaz: Um, I like it.
I do. Kind of see some correlations with Pips lips where I can't really picture the product that way, but I'm a hundred percent behind the branding and I do think it is a really good idea. We
Philippe: should, yeah.
Chaz: [00:35:00] Can
Shubh: we call the inflatable work desk sands off? I, no, that doesn't work.
Philippe: Took me a while to even think about where you were going, but
Shubh: guys, I know what we can call the floatable desk, the aqua disc.
Chaz: There it is.
Philippe: I like that. That's it? Yeah.
Chaz: That's really good.
Shubh: Oh my God. See, I told you I wouldn't be able to sleep until we came up with the name for that one. Okay, so back to sans off. Okay. I've implemented a much more complicated scoring system for myself because I like to overcomplicate things. The this one, the branding and go to market clear as day 30 outta 35.
The actual idea. I got some questions about, I do like that there's fewer guarantees who, I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna say 30 outta 35. I'm gonna give it a, a, uh, 20, outta 40 on the actual product. 50 outta 75.
Philippe: Wow.
Shubh: So I [00:36:00] feel, but this is like, but I think it's right there. I just think if you could come back, Phil, the next episode and just be like, Hey, quick update.
Here's a fabric. I think we could make all the stuff out of, then I'd bump you from a 50 to a 63.
Philippe: Okay. I, yeah, I'll be doing that homework, but I appreciate it.
Shubh: Well, I mean, you do have a sister-in-law who just does everything for you with you, uh, returning nothing. Maybe she'd be up for just doing a little research for the rest.
Oh my. I can't wait to get her on the podcast. Uh, it'll just be 20 minutes and be like, Hey. Remember that time you got Philip, that beautiful cashmere blanket and what did he get you again?
Philippe: She also, oh, shoved this. So much worse. Oh, there's more. Yeah. She embroidered it with my initials. She and it,
Shubh: she sounds wonderful.
Philippe: She is wonderful.
Shubh: Sorry, Chaz, can you score this before, uh, we find out that Philip's [00:37:00] sister-in-law did something else incredible for him and his family?
Chaz: Yeah. I'm gonna. Probably have a similar train of thought to shove here. I think it's like low to mid fifties. I would say like 53, 54. But I would love to see a drawing and I do think that uh, it was just a square, square, fuzzy square. Did you drive? Just 'cause we gave you homework doesn't mean you gotta give everybody else homework.
I'm just saying I'm having a hard time kind of visualizing it, so if I could see a good drawing, I think I could definitely boost that score up a little bit.
Shubh: Okay. Well imagine a towel. Could you draw a picture of a towel? Phil? Hey, take a picture of that blanket you got for Christmas and send it to me
Philippe: off.
Shubh: Okay. I'm gonna let
Philippe: that go. There's gonna be a good, there's gonna be a great, I think there's gonna be a great. They, this is gonna be perfect. I [00:38:00] think someone's gonna reach out and be like, there's the perfect material for,
Shubh: can you at the beach today? Can you maybe just, this could be, could. You got three ideas now to pitch while you're in Hawaii to people just on the beach.
One is, Hey, what about forts? The second is, so actually the beach you can pitch forts and sands off at the pool I think would be a great place to pitch aqua disc. Yeah, just, you know, you're chatting people, Hey, what do you do for a living? Oh, I'm the COO of a multinational company and I gotta go back up to the room to work while my, uh, family's down here enjoying the sunshine.
And you're like, wow, that sounds tough. Let me just ask you a question. Yeah. What if you didn't have to go back up to the room to work?
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: And Chaz, we might need that diagram quicker than we think. Phil's gonna get some renderings to start pitching people with the exactly the condo
Philippe: pool when on Google sketchups work in the pool.
Imagine how, how boring that pool would be. Everyone. This is a coworking space in a pool,
Shubh: WeWork, [00:39:00] but for pools.
Philippe: Yeah.
Shubh: Okay, fellas, I do. Just despite how hilarious it is to ruin Phil's vacation for him, I'm gonna be respectful of the rest of his day. He's clearly, he's gonna go, uh, sailing, probably do another 10 minutes complaining about airport lounges.
Is there a free breakfast on vacation? You could maybe complain about this rental car. The convertible on this rental car, the, the roof takes too long to open and close.
My backup surfboard's. All s scratched up. Chaz, thanks for, uh, jumping on successful. I think first pitch, thank won't be your last. Uh, but we do need a follow up diagram. I think, uh, I need to see, I need to see what the aqua desks is gonna look like in real life.
Chaz: Well go follow us on Instagram for
Shubh: Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Follow us. I'm supposed to say things like that, right? Yeah. Follow us on Instagram. Your business is on the line. Yeah. Uh, find us on Spotify and Apple [00:40:00] Music. Mm-hmm. Follow us and rate us. Nobody knows how to rate, rate podcasts on Spotify. If you go to the about tab, there's a little star just to click on the star rating and you can rate us on Spotify.
Nobody gets rated on Spotify. I don't think it means anything, but, uh, it's good for my ego, which isn't that the most important Christmas lesson of all.
Chaz: Don't forget LinkedIn.
Shubh: Oh yes. Follow us on LinkedIn. Your businesses on the line on LinkedIn, man, we're all over. You know what, while we're at it. Follow Tech Thursday on Substack.
Right. Do that too, right?
Philippe: That would be great. I just realized I don't follow it on LinkedIn, so lemme go do that right now.
Shubh: You don't follow our podcast on LinkedIn.
Philippe: That's right.
Shubh: Or you don't follow Tech Thursday. I'm like,
okay, Philip, have a wonderful vacation. Uh, Chaz, enjoy my guests shoveling snow. Sounds like you got a big storm out there. And um, uh, next time I'll give you my guys. My, I know I couldn't record yesterday 'cause I was at week two. I'll give you the review of that next time. [00:41:00]
Chaz: Oh wow,
Shubh: it wasn't good. All right,
Chaz: see
Shubh: ya.
Chaz: Goodbye gang.